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Old 13th Jan 2015, 10:06
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Well that's going to dismantle the Brent Field this year.
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Old 13th Jan 2015, 22:16
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Hearing rumours that Rosebank is going to be re thought.

Apparently it needs 100$ a barrel to make worth while. For those that don't know it was planned to spend 6-8 billion developing it this and next year.
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Old 16th Jan 2015, 10:33
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And yet the SNP are so stupid that they are still trying to get Scotland out of the UK by any means possible.

Do they really care so little about their own country?
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Old 16th Jan 2015, 10:48
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And yet the SNP are so stupid that they are still trying to get Scotland out of the UK by any means possible.

Do they really care so little about their own country?
Sadly this is true, the SNP still have their heads lodged up their backsides on this subject.

The man in the street however has a different view, the so called '45' have all but gone and most people now realise just how close to disaster it could have came on the 18th Sept. One positive outcome from this low oil price is that it will go firmly against the SNP at the GE in May.

Good thing too, Milliband hasn't ruled out doing a deal with the SNP to get a Labour coalition into number 10 in the event of a hung vote. Imaging him there with Salmond as his deputy dawg....
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Old 16th Jan 2015, 11:09
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Unfortunately you are all being a bit nave.

The oil and all the other economic rubbish was all just fluff to get the masses to think that they would be ok or better under independence.

The SNP higher ups and quite a few of the vocal supports knew fine that there economic plans were a work of fantasy.

The only goal was to get independence by any means possible what ever the economic outcome .

Any I agree that on the street you won't see much sign of it. But they are still working hard, to be honest a lot harder than the other party's.

But I suspect that showing their true colours with the silent majority will save the day. But then again that's not actually a good thing for Scotland because they were actually pretty good in Scottish gov. And there rest are pretty poor.

The seeing the BP outlook made me feel sick, it is logical and I can see it happening.

Most of the big players have sold off the marginal fields to small operators which will go bust and we will be left with a rusting grave yard off shore with nobody but the tax payer to pay for the removal of them.

So to be honest the past 2 years has only been the start of it. Its going to get a lot worse as well.

And stand by for a post GE major increase in fuel tax both on domestic supplys and transport.

Have no thoughts though that they have changed the ultimate goal, and they will strive towards it what ever harm to both the UK and Scotland results. If they can't get it one way they will try another they know fine that they won't have a chance again with the current people still alive. And they may never get another Salmond with the gift of the gab to front it.

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Old 20th Jan 2015, 12:42
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Graceful Degradation?

The depletion rate on this thread appears to be directly proportional to the decline in oil price.
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 03:53
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Everything is a bit screwed due to said oil price.

And the out look for it remaining for an extended period on purpose to remove several groups of suppliers out of the game is quite real.

The calls for changes in tax etc aren't to be honest going do anything even if they reduced them to zero. To be taxed you need to be in profit, at the moment they are loosing money every barrel they pump in the Northsea.

The job cuts have started and will quite rapidly escalate. I can't see anything to stop that unless the government starts paying them to stay in production which would be plain stupid never mind impossible.

Greens have produced a gem of a manifesto.

And almost daily some political gimp is showing how stupid they all really are.

Realistically this is going to be worse than Ravens Craig shutting both in numbers and taxable revenue from personal and commercial.

Nobody knows yet how bad its going to be.

And I suspect the middle east will keep the price down until the supply is removed. So it really doesn't matter what the country does it will happen eventually.

Labour are starting to creep up again as well. And that stupid cow just doesn't have the charisma that Salmond has.

So its just a wait and see job. The going it alone fantasy is pretty much out the door now. And to be honest once the numbers are run for the taxable income that the Scottish gov could obtain with additional powers is pretty certain to fall well short of its out goings. Which is more than likely why that topic has gone to the wind recently.

So realistically the SNP is going to get defeated by middle east oil policy.

There will I suspect be a load of Nuclear stuff soon as well as they have just been very convincingly been defeated over trident.

And both Nuclear power plants have until 2023 to operate. Hunterston they were has a current date of 2016 for shut down but that will cause problems and EDF say they can extend it to 2023 as well.

But its old and they are getting old age problems with materials.

They are going to have to start soon if they intend to replace them.
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 15:29
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But wait, the SNP mantra was that oil tax revenue was a "nice to have" and indy could be achieved anyway.

I distinctly recall TJ and company saying that several times.............where are those guys now?
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 16:01
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 16:15
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its not just the tax off the oil though.

There is all the wages and the products that get bought with those wages which of course have tax included which they seem to want to forget about.

Yep seen that and no doubt every new poll is going to be flashed out leading up to the election.

But as with the referendum I suspect the hidden couldn't be bothered in the past voters are going to screw things up.
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Old 25th Jan 2015, 17:06
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Sir Ian Wood claims North Sea oil industry is winding down | Scotland | News
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Old 25th Jan 2015, 17:17
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Aye! We will never see the price of oil rise again in our liftime !! We are all doomed I tell you. All doomed !!!

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Old 25th Jan 2015, 17:27
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That's wonderful news..... For the Scots and for all of us... The more stays under the ground... the better...!!! That, and the fracking opposition growing and shale gas extraction very unlikely to take place in the UK... good news indeed.
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Old 25th Jan 2015, 18:44
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So, you want the lights to go out and us all to freeze our b******s off in the winter, do you?
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Old 25th Jan 2015, 19:51
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The price will go up again after most of the old platforms have decommissioned.

They are pretty much on there last legs anyway some of them.

Once the pipelines stop being used they will deterorate as well.

So if oil was to flow again pretty much the whole infrastructure would need replaced if things were shut down more than a couple of years.

Lord only knows what the price would need to be for that to happen. Significantly more than $100 a barrell

They will keep it low until the small producers are gone and the fracking has died a tempory death. And more than likely the majority of the north sea is semi perminately out of production.

Which won't actually take that long. 2-3 years will be enough.
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Old 27th Jan 2015, 22:44
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Huff Post I know but it might provide some entertaining responses

SNP's credibility has crashed with the oil price | Azeem Ibrahim

Its all rather quiet on this topic now. Roll on election time.
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 00:08
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Aye , Roll on indeed !!

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Old 4th Feb 2015, 17:17
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What happened to the Scottish hamster?

It was interesting seeing the fight.
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 18:10
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Its reached 45% torque, then the wheel came off!
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 18:35
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Those of us that got through the ennui, repetitiveness and high conflict were eventually banned from the thread.
With what's looming ahead in the impending elections this was possibly a wise move by the mods, it was good fun except for the unfortunate few that tried to take it seriously.
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