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Old 16th Nov 2014, 21:47
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Originally Posted by mad_jock View Post
yep with hopefully your predictions having the same quality as all your previous ones.
Hell of a thing to have an opposing view MJ. Happy for you to hope otherwise - makes the world go round.

Although not really sure what predictions I made above - hey ho.

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Old 16th Nov 2014, 21:48
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Tom,

Interesting quote from that Grauniad article:

"Independence activists including Jeane Freeman, from Women for Independence, and broadcaster and Guardian columnist Lesley Riddoch are being tipped as likely candidates. But they are understood to be unhappy about the SNP proposals for a joint ticket, and have not yet agreed to the proposal."

Given that the journalist in question has never spoken to Ms Freeman it is curious that he makes the claim he does.

Some of us hoped the constant lying by unionists would stop after the referendum.
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Old 16th Nov 2014, 21:51
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Lol they forgot they won perthsaint, they are still in pre referendum mode.

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Old 16th Nov 2014, 21:54
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Perthsaint, I must admit it is really hard to believe what has happened to Labour in Scotland, then again they fully deserve it, they sold out on their own principles. The Westminster election next year is going to be really interesting.

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Old 16th Nov 2014, 22:00
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I absolutely agree, Tom. It isn't a stretch to see the SNP as the 3rd largest party at Westminster and able to extract significant concessions from a minority Labour government.

Referendum II will be a very different affair.
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Old 16th Nov 2014, 22:00
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So only the losers can continue to lie?

I am sure your predictions will be the same quality as always
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Old 16th Nov 2014, 22:02
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
Very simply because I don't want to see the breakup of a country that has survived the worst that can be thrown at it for hundreds of years, and now needs its combined resources to survive in competition with the new superpowers.
Sally, do you honestly believe that Scotland is essential to that. If so, why?
I really have a hard time believing that, given our small population, small contribution to overall GDP (remember we are not a net contributor), that we are actually that crucial to the UK "surviving competition with the new superpowers". Economically we would certainly not be missed. So why do you think we are crucial?

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Old 16th Nov 2014, 22:03
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Ahh bless - the PerthJoad mutual appreciation society is back again
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Old 16th Nov 2014, 22:05
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Originally Posted by mad_jock View Post
So only the losers can continue to lie?
Labour didn't lose - well not the referendum anyway.

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Old 16th Nov 2014, 22:06
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So in denial that you were predicting a landslide yes vote for the referendum


And that the oil would be the saviour of everything.

And of course the price of oil would stay up enough so that tax could be significant.
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Old 16th Nov 2014, 22:13
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Originally Posted by mad_jock View Post
So in denial that you were predicting a landslide yes vote for the referendum


And that the oil would be the saviour of everything.

And of course the price of oil would stay up enough so that tax could be significant.
I hoped for a Yes win, I voted for a Yes win, I never predicted anything MJ.

I still hope that we will achieve what we set out to do, I still believe Scotland's future will be best served outside of the UK.

As for oil, I do not believe I made any such predictions. Now what was it you were saying about lying

Maybe you best stick to your regular ground of proclaiming "scum and sh%te holes" - you have the pulse of Scotland alright MJ.

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Old 16th Nov 2014, 22:16
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Ahh bless - the PerthJoad mutual appreciation society is back again
Interesting, youre not trying to close discussion down are you MFC?

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Old 16th Nov 2014, 22:19
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Originally Posted by perthsaint View Post
I absolutely agree, Tom. It isn't a stretch to see the SNP as the 3rd largest party at Westminster and able to extract significant concessions from a minority Labour government.

Referendum II will be a very different affair.
They may well be, of course it all depends on whether the voters in England fall for UKiP, good chance they may well do, one can only hope that reason will hold.

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Old 16th Nov 2014, 22:27
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no your OK commenting on you talking bollocks is more fun.

Is that the new cybernats brief deny all knowledge about anything you said before.

Everything the opposition says is a VOW but anything said by the SNP was just a personal statement only relating to the person.
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Old 16th Nov 2014, 22:29
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
As someone who has always wanted Scotland to stay within the UK, I'm beginning to lose patience with all this SNP crap.

It's time we stopped pandering to them and tell them to put up or shut up.

No more negotiations. If you want to go, just declare UDI and go away.
Not sure what you mean there Sally who exactly is pandering to them and how are they pandering. The SNP are a legitimate party, they are the governing party in Scotland, they represent a significant percentage of the Scottish electorate. On the one hand you say you want to hold the UK together and on the other you say you would be happy if the SNP declared UDI. Now some are already hinting for such consideration should the Labour face the annihilation in 2016 that looks evermore likely. I'm not sure UDI would be the way to go about this and it is certainly not SNP policy. Comments like you made are often made in jest or in the heat of the moment but it does make you wonder what it is exactly that the UK establishment thinks it gains from Scotland's continuance in the union. This links to my previous question on your take on "competing against superpowers".


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Old 16th Nov 2014, 22:34
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Originally Posted by mad_jock View Post
no your OK commenting on you talking bollocks is more fun.

Is that the new cybernats brief deny all knowledge about anything you said before.

Everything the opposition says is a VOW but anything said by the SNP was just a personal statement only relating to the person.
Like I said fella, I never made any predictions - I desperately wanted a win but never made any prediction. You continue to lie as is your want. The desperate
contrivance in your post above speaks volumes. Now you appear to have missed this:

I hoped for a Yes win, I voted for a Yes win, I never predicted anything MJ.

I still hope that we will achieve what we set out to do, I still believe Scotland's future will be best served outside of the UK.

As for oil, I do not believe I made any such predictions. Now what was it you were saying about lying

Maybe you best stick to your regular ground of proclaiming "scum and sh%te holes" - you have the pulse of Scotland alright MJ.
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Old 16th Nov 2014, 22:35
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Originally Posted by TomJoad View Post
Interesting, youre not trying to close discussion down are you MFC?

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Not at all fella
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Old 16th Nov 2014, 22:36
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Ach well time for bed. MFC has made it clear the house unionist want only one voice here - their own. Makes you wonder what they fear.

See you later

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Old 16th Nov 2014, 22:41
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your a comedy gem tom.

I wouldn't be surprised if the torry government which I expect to get in sends soldiers in to protect the democratic rights of the no voters.

I think the SNP are playing with fire the way they are going.

I am extremely glad I don't live in Glasgow, Edinburgh or Dundee. It could get rather sporty with the likes of piesupper turning the heat up in the shadows.
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Old 16th Nov 2014, 22:41
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Oh dear, Pinky and Perthy are back again.

I knew it was too good to last.
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