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Old 30th May 2014, 18:25
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Abuse of women.

There is the kidnap of 250 Nigerian girls.

The 'honour' killing by stoning of the woman in Pakistan who married a man not approved by her family.

The rape and murder by hanging of two young girls in India.

And the 100 lashes and death sentence faced by the Christian woman in Sudan for being an apostate from the Islamic faith - despite her being born to a Christian mother and having been abandoned by her Muslim father from childhood (age 6).
One of her relatives had claimed that Meriam was committing ‘adultery’ for marrying outside of Islam, and reported her to authorities.
She told a court in Khartoum that she had been brought up as a Christian and refused to renounce her faith.
She and Wani married in 2011, but the court ruled that the union was invalid and that Ibrahim was guilty of adultery.
The court sentenced Meriam to 100 lashes for adultery (with her husband as he is not a Muslim) and the death sentence for apostasy (ie for abandoning Islam).
Sudan follows Sharia (Islamic) law in its Criminal Code, and apostasy is punishable by death.
Meriam has just given birth (in Jail - while shackled) to their second child.

From (and more at):- Husband of Sudanese death row woman appeals for support | World news | theguardian.com

More here:- MPs demand UN action to help Sudan death-row mother Meriam Ibrahim | Mail Online

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/actions/s...ahim-christian

Sudanese Meriam Ibrahim, facing execution for marrying Christian, gives birth in jail | Mail Online

Meriam studied and qualified in Sudan as a doctor - not that that is relevant compared to the charges levelled against her.
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The treatment of women and girls that you have highlighted here G-CPTN is nothing short of barbaric. The perpetrators and supporters attempt to justify it through reference to religious our cultural traditions. Our governments and any right thinking mind should condemn this inhumane attitude towards women and girls without qualification. Our government could make a start by withdrawing aid and other cooperative agreements, inward investment and bring pressure to bear through trade restrictions and the UN. In as much as the eradication of smallpox required world wide cooperation so to does the debasement of women and girls to less than property. Education of young girls is one of the most powerful liberators from this condition and is why the likes of the Taliban and BH fear eduction so much. But we in the west and throughout the world need to do more in actively condemning this attitude. We could start by refusing to countenance the use of the word "honour" in relation to these incidents where clearly murder is more accurate. I find we have become desensitised to much but the story of the pregnant lady who was stoned with her father's blessing in Pakistan shook me. How could a father do such to his daughter - the title of father should be a privilege and never should he who holds it be capable of such . In the report from Africa on "child brides" one woman who escaped reported that "when we are young girls our fathers love us, but when we become women their love turns to hate." I find it beyond comprehension.


With respect to Meriam Ibrahim, if ever there was a moment for the likes of Iran or Saudi Arabia to show leadership then it is now.
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Old 30th May 2014, 19:01
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"The treatment of women and girls that you have highlighted here G-CPTN is nothing short of barbaric."


Agree.

All 3 were in the local media this week.


India (and Pakistan) needs to get it sorted out if they are to enter the 1st world. And it is often the Authorities that need to be sorted out as they allow it to happen !
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Sharia Law is in clear breach of the principles of the United Nations, especially with respect to women.
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Now the UN won't do anything because they only seem to go after countries like UK, USA, Aus
where we tend to feel guilty or they try to make us feel guilty and change.

The have little influence over these other countries !


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And as per Capetonians post below, spot on, unless you are a similar colour to them !

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.... and any criticism of, or rebuke towards, these vile barbarians and their stone age practices is deemed 'racist', and nobody wants to be labelled with that!
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Seams to me that is the great problem of our age - the inability to speak simple truths and to act with confidence and certainty with the strength of our conscience.
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I speak simple truths, very non PC one's and if people don't like it,
well tough, they don't like the truth.

ie Most people have this rosy thoughts of what, say being an Aboriginal in Aus is like, that it is all "whiteys" fault without seeing it for themselves or knowing about it and they don't this view being changed.
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Another one.

Rape victim's mother brutally beaten to force her to drop charges in northern India
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In Australia, domestic violence has reached epidemic proportions, unfortunately sometimes with fata results. These men are nothing but cowards.

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Just heard on the radio.

The two police in India who did nothing have been arrested.
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Tom, agree with all of it. thanks for saying it, too; it's really great to hear it from a bloke and see a bunch of other blokes agreeing.


No more catering's point is also valid, too. While far better than Africa and the ME, our own culture still features too many wife/child beaters

However as for Saudi Arabia or Iran doing anything about it... That'll be the day. I reckon they probably encourage it.
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As a young man living away from home for the first time, next door

was turned over by the police who found a young lndian girl bricked up

in the fireplace.

That was 1969.

Seems she had been there some time.

Do you expect change ?
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Sharia Law permits the family of the victim to forgive the killer. So when a father murders his daughter, he can effectively let himself off. This is why the Police stand by and watch 'honour' killings in Pakistan.
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Sharia Law is allowed in the UK.

But only in " local petty" disputes as far as l can see.

A few years ago Luton Council had to be legally restrained from shipping

council tax money overseas.

Ongoing isn`t it ?

Anyway, this is all extremely depressing.
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Most people have this rosy thoughts of what, say being an Aboriginal in Aus is like, that it is all "whiteys" fault without

So true, the "whitey" is blamed for introducing the Aboriginals to alcohol, which is total bollix, there is not a single primitive tribe in the whole of Africa, South America, Papa New Guinea and rural India that hasn't found a way to make an alcoholic drink! All we whiteys have done is make it more accessible, so the Aboriginals just don't bother to make it.
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Sharia Law is allowed in the UK.
I wonder what UKIP's view of this is. Personally I believe only English Law should be allowed in the UK.

If people from whatever background want to live in the UK then they should abide by UK law not their own.
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Personally I believe only English Law should be allowed in the UK.

If people from whatever background want to live in the UK then they should abide by UK law not their own.
You haven't really thought that through, have you?
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OK is this what the UK is coming to?

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The one thing whites can be blamed for is introducing various diseases that wiped out most of the abos. Everything else they had a choice in.
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