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Old 7th Apr 2014, 02:12
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Well, where are we in the UK with some domestic/European flights provided by the so-called RAF Royal flights?

Longer-haul flights for Royalty and PM etc., are just outsourced. Sometimes at great expense on B.A. aircraft...other times charters or RAF aircraft.

Perhaps we could have a 'state' aircraft, such as an A-330, B767/787 or upcoming A-350 to do the duties?

We don't have the Royal Yacht Britannia anymore...what are the economics of having a 'State' aircraft? Perhaps cheaper than chartering ad-hoc? e.g. how much did we pay for the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge & Georgey baby to go to N.Z./AUS for 3 weeks just now? Anyone know how much this 'charter cost' and what airline involved?

I'd rather have a kinda 'Global/Royal/PM' type of aircraft on trade/diplomatic missions abroad...however, I'm not a 'bean counter'. The kudos & PR of such an a/c could perhaps outweigh current costs?

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Old 7th Apr 2014, 02:18
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"They arrived on a Qantas flight from Britain just after 7am and were driven in convoy to the tarmac where they boarded a Royal New Zealand Air Force plane to Wellington.

From what I have read, 3 or 4 of the entourage went 1st class, the other ?? 7 or so went how ever they went, possibly on the same aircraft.

Hope that answers some of your questions.


IMHO, nothing wrong with Royals traveling on normal BA or Qantas aircraft / schedule flights. Do they really need a special aircraft ? Just asking.

If it's good enough for the Queen ........ ?
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 02:21
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I think you'll find that the people of Australia and New Zealand will be forking out for this royal tour, transport, security, accomodation, the lot!
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 02:54
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I really don't care in what aircraft those Royals fly as long as the Australian tax payer does not have to pay the bill.
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 06:03
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The royal private toilet costs a fortune, for starters.

Er ...

Buy a $200m plane and use it once a month for 15 years?

That makes $1 million a trip, before minor items like fuel, maintenance etc.
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 06:24
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Isle Dweller,
It will not make you happy to learn that the Australian taxpayers will be picking up 100% of the cost of the Australian tour.
Tootle pip!!
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 07:26
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It seems odd that just about every country in the world has an aircraft available for the use of the head of state, government etc, even Italy has a massive fleet of them. What have we got? The Queen travels even over short distances by chartered private jet. It's just embarrassing and I would have thought a question of prestige.
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 07:27
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those Royals
I'm detecting a balanced Australian...
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 07:44
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Commercial operator, given adequate security is by far the most economic option.
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 07:53
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As a non royalist it pains me to say this.
Prestige is something you have, you do not need to show off to have it. The Royal Family does have prestige.
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 08:25
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IIRC when Tony Blair became PM he wanted a Tristar as his personal transport, (Blair Force One).

Obviously a true socialist
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 08:41
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.....and he couldn't get rid of the royal yacht quick enough!

If my memory serves me well he got very, very close to actually ordering a jet for himself and the wicked witch mind you he could have shared her broomstick
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 11:42
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very close to actually ordering a jet for himself and the wicked witch
What, he was going to share a plane with Thatcher ?
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 11:55
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I'm detecting a balanced Australian...
What, shackles on both ankles ?

Only kidding ockers, I'm quite an Australophile.
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People forget we tried having a president rather than a Monarch for eleven years,and long before anybody else tried it,we realized what a arse we had made of things and got a king back as quickly as we could.
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 20:08
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I stand to be corrected, but the current French President François Hollande appears to be very satisfied with France's equivalent. Inherited from his arch-enemy ex. President Nicholas Sarkozy, who upgraded the fleet to include an Airbus A-330 to replace smaller airplanes such as the Dassault Falcons. At least (and in spite of all the austerity measures), the fleet he inherited remains intact. And to all intents and purposes, President Hollande has been using the fleet to maximum capacity almost since taking office. Seeing how unpopular he was with the French electors. And deciding to spend as much time as possible travelling outside of France aboard the A-330 as consequence...?!
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 21:11
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Were it not for our Kings and Queens the last thousand years of our History would be very boring.
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 21:38
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I've done govt flights (not for the British Govt) and flown Royals around (on private business).

I'd rather a country who's a bit broke charter an aircraft on an "as and when" basis rather than waste their citizens money.
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 21:59
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"Buy a $200m plane and use it once a month for 15 years?"

So, by this logic, the Obamas are actually saving money by flying off in all directions?

I think the main justificationss for having dedicated aircraft are security, security and security.

Not just for the 'vips' but also for the public who might become involved in a terrorist attack.
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 22:10
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I know this is UK Gov't and Royals but it seems our PM's RAAF A330 has just been grounded The whole entourage is stuck in Japan !

Plane malfunction hits Tony Abbott's Korean visit
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