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Old 15th Nov 2013, 00:42
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Die hernieuwde Kaffir...

Is it me or is Britain slowly sliding into 3rd world status...? Phones don't work, spivs talk and nothing else does (I mean look at Cameron and the war criminal Blair).

I currently run part of my business from home but the lack of British know how (allied to people called Gupta) is making me think I should relocate to Germany (not least because I like German marching music)...

Does Britain get your goat? Am I wrong Englanders?

PPRuNe, I ask you?


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Old 15th Nov 2013, 00:51
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I was speaking to an ex RAF pilot about radar (80s pedigree) and he laughed about the failure of British radar in the two conflicts that he fought in (an English invention basically)...

What the hell is going wrong with this country?

It wouldn't happen in Germany would it mate?


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"I was speaking to an ex RAF pilot about radar (80s pedigree) and he laughed about the failure of British radar in the two conflicts that he fought in (an English invention basically)..."

Which conflicts were those ?

The Falklands ?

and

?????
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The Falklands
One of them...

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Second one, not sure on that.

I'll go Gulf War 1.
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Having spent much time in Germany, over the last five years I have bought only three major items manufactured in Britain for installation in that country.
The most expensive was a central heating system and geyser installation. The best available in Britain is primitive in design and function with that found in Germany. It's complex, inefficient and ugly and requires frequent reference to the instruction manual to fault find. It reminds me of Smetana.
Another was a complete double glazed window which was installed by the manufacturer. The double glazing itself allowed sufficient water to leak in so that you could press the bottom of the window frame and watch the water level rise in between the two pieces of glass. Comparison with even the cheapest off the shelf double glazed units at OBI is invidious.
The third was a cooker manufactured by a subsidiary of AGA. There were a couple of minor snags obvious enough once the cooker was first plugged in. The real killer though was that when you opened the oven door, the side panel of the cooker popped off.
Quality control in British manufacture, an anal eructation of an idea.
Backup in British manufactured products, a hard fought rearguard action.
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I was speaking to an ex RAF pilot about radar (80s pedigree) and he laughed about the failure of British radar in the two conflicts that he fought in (an English invention basically)...
If the Falklands conflict was one of them then the RAF were involved only with the Vulcan and the Harrier. The Vulcan was 1950's technology and was on it's way to retirement even then and the RAF Harrier was quite old technology itself in 1982.

We haven't done much as a country since then but we have been trying to save the world ever since the 1980's haven't we? Every world problem since then we have been in there with the USA and anyone else who cared at the time. The latest being the typhoon in the Philippines - Britain is in there again with HMS Daring and Illustrious. Where are the rest of the world? And China? Apparently a minor spat over some islands has meant they are doing virtually nothing.

As the Labour minister said on leaving government we have no more money. It's about time we lived within our means and other countries did their bit.
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Flap 5 .... U.K. keeps dropping hints that it is a s**t place to live in but still the world's masses keep on arriving, could that be part of the problem?
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Flap 5 .... U.K. keeps dropping hints that it is a s**t place to live in but still the world's masses keep on arriving, could that be part of the problem?
AH! That is a whole new thread. But has already been done.
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(an English invention basically)...
Er, no. Another Scottish one

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Where are the rest of the world?
We're there too ! Only 2 aircraft and a ship, but we don't have all that many.
Australia increases typhoon aid package to Philippines to $30 million, as major logistical problems hamper relief efforts - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

It's about time we lived within our means and other countries did their bit.
If we were talking about my country (which I realise we aren't ) I'd agree with respect to wars. Personally I'm not usually a big fan of my country wading into other people's age-old punch ups. However, IMO providing aid after a massive natural disaster is a different matter. It's not like the Filipinos invited a massive typhoon to come and flatten the place, and if first world countries have ships and expert personnel who can mitigate some of the death and pestilence then that's for the greater good. Also, from a purely utilitarian POV it gives said personnel some practice.
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Old 15th Nov 2013, 08:08
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Just slightly disingenuous.

Robertson Watt led an Air Ministry team that "invented" RADAR (although the principle had been proved many decades before this) He was also in charge of the Air Ministry team that developed Chain Home at Bawdsey.

Whatever .............. it was a damned good job.
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an English invention basically

Cue lots of coughing and throat clearing from Jockistan.

And while we're on the subject, it was the application of the theories of James Clarke Maxwell as viwed on John Logie Baird's aparatus. Probably developed while eating marmalade sandwiches.
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Robertson Watt led an Air Ministry team that "invented" RADAR
Didn't Arthur C. Clarke write a book about it, specifically PAR?
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Robertson Watt led .......
Er, actually:-

Robert Watson-Watt

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Wasn't it the manufacture of a Cavity Magnetron that was not half the size of a house that was the big breakthrough in Wartime Radar?
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Britains has been sliding towards 3rd world status for a while.
basic infrastructure is ignored, yet wonderous palaces for the upper echelons keep appearing and vast sums are spent on "prestigious" projects.

meanwhile the roads are potholed, we are running out of electrical generating capacity, we have to import gas & electricity, which is sold to us at extortionate prices by foreign-controlled tax-avoiding not-quite-but-very-nearly-cartels.

oh gawd I'm begining to sound like KnC

We at the National Social & Democratic Action Party are bringing together plans to address these issues (and more)
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Tony Draper ...."invented" at Brum University I think.
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Generating plants powered by burning undesirables no doubt.
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