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Old 28th Jun 2015, 07:26
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At least they achieved one thing. I agree with Siti. Shurely Shome Mishtake!
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Old 28th Jun 2015, 10:13
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How about on the lack of any sort of moral compass in society today...
That's a bit extreme the other way, I fear.

However, what most non-Americans have concluded is that the general availability of firearms to just about anyone in the USA - even those with no sort of moral compass, and those with a singular lack of common sense - is the cause of far too many deaths. It's the NRA that insists on maintaining this status quo, and the voters of the USA wish to continue the slaughter. Their call.
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I can pretty much guarantee you that the full-auto Kalashnikoff that was used in the Tunisia attack didn't come from anywhere on this side of the pond. Furthermore, even if all civilian guns were outlawed, it would still have been just as available to the terrorist who used it.
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A bit like the M-60s, AR-15s, Thompsons,MAC-11s , M-1 Carbines .50 Brownings etc supplied to a terrorist group in the UK, I wonder where they came from
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Old 28th Jun 2015, 14:49
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A bit like the M-60s, AR-15s, Thompsons,MAC-11s , M-1 Carbines .50 Brownings etc supplied to a terrorist group in the UK, I wonder where they came from

Not from the NRA or the US Government, that I can tell you,
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Old 28th Jun 2015, 16:31
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con-pilot,

I am assuming you are excluding the late Sen Kenndy's verbal support for said terror group as " from the USG".


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A bit like the M-60s, AR-15s, Thompsons,MAC-11s , M-1 Carbines .50 Brownings etc supplied to a terrorist group in the UK, I wonder where they came from.
Which terrorist group do you have in mind?

UVF,
UDA (aka UFF),
UR(M) (paramilitary wing of the DUP) publicly supported by self-proclaimed 'Reverend' and so-called 'Doctor' Ian Paisley, Peter Robinson and Sammy Wilson)
Third Force (founded by Paisley)

(P)IRA
INLA,
IPLO,
Real IRA,
ONH

Those (on each side) come immediately to mind.
Given your location and username, you probably know more.

As you are aware, contrary to common belief/misinformation, terrorists groups on both sides had access to large volumes of weapons, including some advanced equipment, despite the best efforts of the authorities. (I realise criminal groups in the Lebanon and South Africa were the more common source for the unionist side.)

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That's a bit extreme the other way, I fear.
Perhaps, but only a little bit.

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Well the M-60s ,PIRA ,came from a national guard armoury , M-16 as well, funding for most of the others including Eastern Block weapons from NORAID ,you know Martin Galvin the NY Lawyer who now supports CIRA etc (I did detain him outside Carrickmore in 84) Barrett .50s direct from US suppliers.

Loyalist alphabet soup weapons usually stolen or paid for from drug money or home made.
UR and Third Force (farmers waving firearms certs on mountains) were infitrated from the start and total muppets and the only UR major weapons shipment of VZ 58s were mostly recovered in the boot of a car by the RUC .
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Regardless, there are zero full auto AKs coming to Tunisia from the US.

Folks in Europe and Asia are much better at making them than are we...
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Old 28th Jun 2015, 19:43
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con-pilot,

I am assuming you are excluding the late Sen Kenndy's verbal support for said terror group as " from the USG".


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Kennedy’s can do no wrong, you should know that.

I did not know that was official. But then I was left in the dark a lot, guess they figured we'd do less damage that way.

Hey now, it is not everybody that can go to island X, arrest a guy, bring him back to the US, then turn around and take him back a week later, repeat twice. But he did get to ride every type of aircraft we had at the time; Kingair 200, Sabre 80 and then the 727. We were thinking about giving him frequent flyer’s miles.

Added that last bit in cause it might be related to the topic.


Oh, and you left out, “Hi! I’m from the government and here to help.”
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Old 28th Jun 2015, 20:12
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The only UR major weapons shipment of VZ 58s were mostly recovered in the boot of a car by the RUC.
That is not correct.
The UDA share was seized in a police stop (of two cars) at Portadown. (Davey Payne arrested.)
Some of the UVF share was recovered subsequently from the Crumlin Road area.
The UR share has never been recovered (Apart from a few items at various times.)

The shipment was a 3-way split between the UDA, the UVF and the UR: 200+ VZ 58s, 94 Brownings, 4 RPG-7 rocket launchers, 62 warheads, 450 RGD-5 grenades and 30,000+ rounds of ammunition – and that was just the one shipment known.

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Point taken.
I didn't want anyone to think it was only the IRA that was heavily armed. Both sides were.
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Old 4th Jul 2015, 09:12
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The didn't like living with democracy

But I bet they loved the welfare. Anyway, sounds like Syria is the best place for them.
'All 12 of us are in the Islamic State': Luton family confirm they ARE in Syria and encourage other Britons to join them | Daily Mail Online
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Islamic State 'murders 25 men in Palmyra' - BBC News
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Not surprising.
Here's a thought: the ISIS crew are trying to operate on a low overhead, with the alleged funding crunch they are under, and taking care of prisoners might be an expense they just don't want to bear. So they just kill them.

It's a guess, perhaps wrong.
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Old 7th Jul 2015, 07:05
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From the various bits of European history that I've read about wars prior to the seventeenth century (and some since) the taking of rank and file prisoners didn't happen, even the wounded were finished off where they lay.


ISIS, being about five to seven hundred years behind the times, are simply behaving as their ancestors did, who needs cannon fodder prisoners?
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From the various bits of European history that I've read about wars prior to the seventeenth century (and some since) the taking of rank and file prisoners didn't happen, even the wounded were finished off where they lay.


ISIS, being about five to seven hundred years behind the times, are simply behaving as their ancestors did, who needs cannon fodder prisoners?
Fair point, no ransom to collect.
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Old 13th Mar 2016, 21:35
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Here we go again......

'At least 16 dead' after gunmen open fire in Ivory Coast resort

At Least 34 Dead after car bomb explodes in Turkish capital Ankara
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Old 13th Mar 2016, 23:45
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But it's nothing to do with Islam.
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Egyptian Teens Convicted of Blasphemy for Video Mocking ISIS - NBC News


And neither has the above to do with Islam. Not sure what it's to do with, but it can't be Islam. It just can't.
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Last Thursday Mr Anwar chaired an event he organised at Hampden Park calling for unity and condemning violence and extremism.
He said it was first time Ahmadiya, Sunni Imam and Pakistani Christians had been on same platform together.
His comments were made in the wake of the killing of Glasgow shopkeeper Asad Shah, 40, and recent terror attacks in Brussels and Lahore.
From:- Human rights lawyer Aamer Anwar receives death threats.
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