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A bit sick of Britain?

Old 30th Jul 2013, 01:26
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A bit sick of Britain?

Turn on the news: It's another load of bollocks, followed by non-news, then a finisher about some 'celeb, or Royal. or other sweet finisher'

Read the papers: Same shite, but with less news content, more celeb filler and lots about what was on TV last night (or what tomorrows TV will bring).

Our reproduction ratio (that's basically how we reproduce/ keep going as a race) is 1.6.

2.1 is just about keeping going (child mortality, homosexuals etc) reduce it to 2. ie, your wife and you re-produce yourselves.

The Islamic ones reproduction ration is around 8.

All I see is more tax for me, and more unearned gravy, for them.

I'm off.
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Old 30th Jul 2013, 01:41
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I think it's a given that the Britain of 50 years from now will bear very little resemblance to the Britain of today - except, perhaps for a few major cities in the 'Norf' and a (quite a?) few suburbs of London, which some would say are a rather sobering 'window to the future' already.

Like much of Western Europe, Britain is fast losing any pretence of being anything but a giant Ponzi scheme that will only continue in some semblance of what it is today while those running the scheme, a.k.a. the guvvimit, can convince someone to keep supplying the BORROWED funds to maintain it.

The big mystery to me is who that 'someone' (who is willing to loan his funds with increasingly little to no chances of seeing them again) will be in the not too distant future.
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Old 30th Jul 2013, 01:48
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I tried to post a comment on a BBC story the other day but they refused to post it. The story was about Lads Mags needing to cover up
their front covers before some chain of shops owned by its members would allow them to be sold. The usual type of females
turned up in the article - you can guess what they said. I suggested that covering up pictures of young ladies in swimwear
was yet another step on the road towards turning the U.K. into an Islamic state. I also said that when it did become Islamic those
women might regret saying what they did as they probably wouldn't be too happy anymore.
Now I have retired I can say what I honestly feel and that is I hated driving women around who were wearing the full
cover up stuff whilst their husbands looked like any normal bloke on holiday. IF I had said that,whilst employed, I could have lost my job
if certain people heard me. My boss at the time said he felt the same as myself but for the sake of his small business kept very quiet
like me.
An Auckland bus driver got into a real mess a few years ago for saying he felt threatened by women dressed like that.
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Old 30th Jul 2013, 01:55
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An Auckland bus driver got into a real mess a few years ago for saying he felt threatened by women dressed like that.
I understand that, how would he know for a fact it really was a woman.

And I am very serious about that. I know for a fact that type of subterfuge has gotten our solders killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Old 30th Jul 2013, 01:59
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Re full cover.

I walked into a bank the other day.

A sign with what wasn't allowed to be worn.

Caps / Hats
Motorbike Helmets
Sunglasses
and other thing

BUT, no mention of Burqua's or face veils !
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Old 30th Jul 2013, 02:03
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You blokes are not alone up there - Australia is going to hell in a handbasket too.
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Old 30th Jul 2013, 02:28
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A few years ago a woman tried to renew her Florida driver's license. She showed up with the full Burqua. They requested that she remove her veil, she said no, invoking the First Amendment.

The state said then you don't get no stinkin' driver's license. She took the state to court, every court said no way, you want a driver's license, you have a photo of your face on it.

Believe or not, this case made it all the way to the US Supreme Court, they ruled with the state. Basically saying that it was her right to hide her face for religious reasons, but a driver's license is a privilege granted by the state. So she does not get a driver's license for her, unless she had a picture of her face taken by the Florida DPS.

By the way she was not born a Muslim nor did she immigrate to the US as a Muslim. She was a Florida, blond haired, blue eyed Florida party girl that married a Muslim.

I cannot remember if she finally got her renewal or not.
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Old 30th Jul 2013, 02:46
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Good to see that someone for once had some common sense
and didn't bend over backwards like most Gov't's seem to.

We had a cop here who pulled over a full face veil lady.
Ended up going to court. I think they ruled she had to
show here face to the Police if requested.
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Here is a summary (and viewpoints) of the events when a NSW woman refused to lift her burka after a traffic stop. I understand NSW law has been amended to prevent this sort of behaviour in the future.

Burka wearing woman beats the law

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Old 30th Jul 2013, 04:12
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I am so glad we also have some people in power who make sensible decisions
and are not influenced by left leaning pussies.
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Old 30th Jul 2013, 06:43
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What the leftist can't understand is that a only a state imposing some limits can be tolerant enough for (almost) all trends, views and beliefs. When the muslims finally manage to run a western country leftists will be for a very rude awaking.

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Yep, especially the females !
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By the way she was not born a Muslim nor did she immigrate to the US as a Muslim. She was a Florida, blond haired, blue eyed Florida party girl that married a Muslim.
Nothing worse than a born again . Old Christian philosophy that translates well to Islam.

AFAIK all the ME countries now have passport photos showing a woman's full face. This wasn't always the case; even a decade ago many western border control officers were bemused by their first niquab ID photo . IIRC Yemen and Saudi Arabia were the last to get rid of them. Doing a face to passport check (which is always done in Australia, even if it's in a private room by female officers) seemed a bit pointless. I never heard of the face to passport check being a problem or anyone complaining; not that it would have made a gram of difference if they did.
I am so glad we also have some people in power who make sensible decisions and are not influenced by left leaning pussies.
Agreed.
It's another load of bollocks, followed by non-news, then a finisher about some 'celeb, or Royal. or other sweet finisher'
What a journo friend of mine calls the 'Bonky the three-legged donkey' story, i.e. twelve minutes of how the world's going to hell followed by a token Happy Place fluff piece.
The usual type of females turned up in the article - you can guess what they said.
In her student days, a well known local female Labor MP tried to get womens' magazines banned from the campus newsagecy on the basis that they were demeaning. Went down like the proverbial lead balloon (particularly with female students) and regularly came back to haunt her. If you don't want to read it, don't buy it! How hard is that...

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Nothing worse than a born again . Old Christian philosophy that translates well to Islam.
The trouble with born again Christians (Muslims etc..), is that they're generally a bigger pain in the arse the second time around.

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That's the rest of the philosophy . In many cases it's so, so true.
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Well, there's nothing to stop the rest of us also adopting Arabic or Islamic dress, is there. Given the current weather, might also be more comfortable.
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Re. Con-pilot, shows that the Americans get it right sometimes then
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Old 30th Jul 2013, 11:59
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Few years ago a Niqab wearing lady tried boarding a city bus in Aarhus, Denmark, by virtue of her bus card. Said bus card had a picture, but it didn't match the Niqab the driver saw in front of him. He therefore asked her to remove her cover, so he could prove her identity.

I guess you can see where this is going, but the lady in question ended up the same place as the Floridian lady: There is nothing in the Danish constitution securing your right to a bus card. And you're not allowed to enter a bank or post office wearing anything that hides your face, including a Niqab. That has also been tried in court, and common sense won yet again.

Certain elements of the Muslim population were up in arms over these rulings, some people suggested they relocated to a place that is more in tune with their expectations of how society, and justice, should work.
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BBC News - French MPs vote to ban Islamic full veil in public

Vive la France,

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Old 30th Jul 2013, 12:47
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Banning is one thing, enforcing another.

There have only been about 50 or 60 fines levied since the law was passed. Last week's riots in Trappes were caused by a gendarme asking a niqab-wearing woman to show her face, whereupon her husband supposedly attacked the gendarmes and this check, plus his arrest, caused the riots.

A spokesman for the Police union said openly on TV , that his members obviously only made checks when the circumstances were right i.e. not in a crowded street in a Muslim quarter of town .

Co-incidentally or not - one or maybe both of the couple involved were (French ? ) converts.

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