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Old 15th May 2013, 12:55
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Hypothetically Speaking - Mount Rushmore

I guess this could be construed as an American-centric question but, hey, it is what it is.

If you could vote for any former US President to accompany the existing presidential likenesses on Mt. Rushmore who would it be?

My vote would be for Jimmy Carter.

< just kidding. Actually my vote would be for John Adams. Not John Quincy Adams, mind you, just John Adams aka, the 2nd US President>
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Old 15th May 2013, 13:01
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As a outside I would say buggah the politicians, put Neil Armstrong up there.
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It would have to be Kennedy.
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Not a president but a laugh: Billy Carter

Why honour a President ? Like most politicians they are fit only to be (deleted) with a red hot (deleted) up their (deleted) and then stood against a wall and (deleted).

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As a outside I would say buggah the politicians, put Neil Armstrong up there.
I like your thinking. There is room for a 5th head up on Mouth Rushmore, but I doubt if anyone ever did get put up there it would be anyone other than another president.

However, that being said, if any non-president got put there, I can't think of anyone more apt than Neil Armstrong.

Maybe they should start a second Mount Rushmore with American heroes. Who would JBers suggest would go on?
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Although I am in agreement with your sentiments concerning politicians in general, I am of the belief that the presidents of yore were not political animals as they are today. Washington, Adams, Jefferson and a few after that time were more philosophical than anything else. They were more attuned to the "common man", from which the came, then their successors. But, at the same time, the presidents of yore were able to rise above and lead a nation to greatness. Something sadly lacking in present-day Presidents/politicians.
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According to the matrix on this page (W'pedia, yeah, I know...) the next best credentials belong to the other Roosevelt.

Historical rankings of Presidents of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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the next best credentials belong to the other Roosevelt
Eleanor?
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According to the Wiki link you posted Abraham Lincoln is considered the greatest President the U.S. has ever known.

I take exception to that.

I think Lincoln was ONE of the greatest. But I really believe that the greatest U.S. President was arguably Thomas Jefferson. Bar none.
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They were going to add Barry to Rushmore, but they couldn't decide which of his two faces to use.
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There was a recent documentary (American made) shown here that showed old Abe up in a totally different light, not a nice chap at all, but he was a man of his time,ruthless as any other in time of war.
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There was a recent documentary (American made) shown here that showed old Abe up in a totally different light, not a nice chap at all,
Would you be a "nice chap" if you had chronic hemorrhoids? They can be a real pain in the arse.

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Washington > Jefferson by a slim margin.

If you look into the history, and look at the decisions Jefferson made (and in particular his foolish position on the Navy) some of the shine comes off the coin ... even though it is still shiny. The frigates were there to handle the Barbary Pirates despite Jefferson's idiotic gun barges on Chesapeake Bay theory.

On the other hand, the land deal he worked for French Louisiana was brilliant.

Jefferson was a better thinker, Washington a better leader.

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I see your point, Lonewolf, but Jefferson will always be Da Man to me! Yeah, he made some questionable decisions which didn't necessarily turn out all too well (barbary war) but look at what he was responsible for: the Lewis and Clark expeditions, the Louisiana Purchase (as you wrote), the founding of West Point, the admitting of Ohio to the Union, his Native American policy, his repeal of Federal taxes, etc.

I do believe Washington was a better leader as you wrote. But Jefferson was a much better implementer of his ideas than Washington was.

Don't get me wrong: George Washington was a very great President. But a hair-thin second to Jefferson, in my not so humble opinion.
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I wouldn't.

But to answer the conditions of the thread, I'd vote for FDR.

His socialist domestic policies were/are terrible, but he did lead us through two hugely defining periods - The Great Depression and World War II.

Often think that greatness is a factor of being in the saddle when something happens, but he was there for those and the Republic still stood afterwards, so that's something.
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That's pretty sick. Jefferson Davis? Too bad he was on the very losing side of the equation.

<also shows that although you seem to be currently located on the Left Coast, we know where your true allegiance is. Do you eat grits as well?!!!!!>
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Just for balance, there are apparently three sitting European 'Presidents' at any given time.

That means that it would take a mountain the size of Kilimanjaro to contain their likenesses over time. There is nothing, however, which could contain their egos.

Can anyone name these distinguished politicians, and their official titles? I would think that they have more effect on Europeans' daily lives than any American president. (And if not, why not?) No wikicheating.

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