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Old 9th Mar 2013, 12:58
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Abuse by Clergy.

Once again we read and are informed of more child abuse by members of a certain denomination. Tip of the ice berg.

This abuse will never be stamped out until members of this denomination are allowed to marry. Sex is a bit like eating. It is a necessary body function that will allow the human race to continue living.

Where in the Bible does it say, you are not allowed to take a wife?? I cant find it in the Bible I read.
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Old 9th Mar 2013, 13:03
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..According to RC propaganda priests, bishops etc are married to the Church and therefore
can't have any wifery. And yes I agree with the OP this isn't listed anywhere in the Bibble
as far as I know.
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Old 9th Mar 2013, 13:15
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Oh I don't know. By becoming a sort of club for paedophile perversions doesn't the church in question, or any other for that matter, help to congregate the bestials into one sanctuary as it were. Marriage? Forsooth! Until the kerfuffle surrounding Cameron's latest peccadillo, what had sex between a man and a woman to do with a practice where sartorial elegance is measured in hemlines?
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Old 9th Mar 2013, 13:19
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Take you point.

As been said before, same sex relationships are soooo normal.
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All down to a mistake back in the 8th C when a scribe made a mistake and wrote "celibate" in stead of "celebrate"

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Old 9th Mar 2013, 16:57
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All down to a mistake back in the 8th C when a scribe made a mistake and wrote "celibate" in stead of "celebrate"
That may well be so.

My current wish is that semi-literates world-wide and without number who loosely toss around the word "celibate" would learn that it does not mean "chaste".

An oath of celibacy is not an oath of chastity.
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unfortunately that would render a not very funny joke even less funny.
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Old 9th Mar 2013, 18:28
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The main difference seems to be that Catholic abuse appears to be pederasty, while Anglican child abuse appears to to be both homo and heterosexual.
Ease of access I guess......Anglicans have female junior choirstors but Catholics don't.

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Old 9th Mar 2013, 20:17
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PRIEST - Paedophile Resident In Every Small Town



(Jimmy Savile was Catholic - see his book - Savile, Jimmy (1979). God'll Fix it. Mowbray. ISBN 978-0264664576. (Reference taken from his Wikipedia page))


Are there anymore involved in current investigations, all of a certain denomination?
Can any trends be drawn between those under investigation and their faith?
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Are there anymore involved in current investigations, all of a certain denomination?
Can any trends be drawn between those under investigation and their faith?
as long as we're parsing data can we expand this a bit to reveal more?

Like what sex is involved, male or female as the giver and the taker? That would be a lot more meanigfull for our expert pschy analysis. Can we also decide on the denominator in order to ground the rate data?

should it be per hour, per day? or per sexual type of the giver?

After all that is done we can sort out the religous belief types in order to apportion more apropriate stereotypes
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Old 9th Mar 2013, 20:31
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I was a server at our local C of E church. I was never abused. Who do I complain too?
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Your sarcasm is noted, but it seem that the media only seem to publish reports/allegations about Catholics.

Gary Glitter's 2nd wife was Cuban, so she is highly likely to be Catholic, making him quite probable (nothing listed for his faith online)

The Catholic Padre somewhere I used to work was rumoured to have been sent to Iona to avoid publicity.



No-one ever seems to make allegations against CofE. (I standby to be corrected)

Maybe Henry VIII did us all a big favour...?

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No-one ever seems to make allegations against CofE. (I standby to be corrected)
well, apart from all the cases listed above....

In my personal experience, i have never known of a Catholic Priest who abused anyone. I can however name a married CofE vicar who did, and simply got moved out of parish work by the CofE

But people just seem to enjoy throwing accusations around about the Catholic Church.
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Old 9th Mar 2013, 21:06
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For a couple of years I was an altar boy in a "flying parish" in a small town, where the priest drove in, did the service, and drove off again. So I was in no danger of abuse, really. But you do have to wonder what stripe of young man volunteers for a profession that denies him a normal, healthy sex life. They start as teenagers, FFS.

(I don't think I ever actually believed what they were saying - I was just a kid. If anything, it was like being on stage in some boring Surrealist repertory play.)

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The Catholic Padre somewhere I used to work was rumoured to have been sent to Iona to avoid publicity.
I suspect that Iona wouldn't have had him (in any sense!) Taize, on t'other hand, has form, and he would have felt very much at home there.
Allegedly.

I'm neither RC nor CofE, but know that 'my lot' have also had their miscreants - of both sexes - properly-reported at the time... and rightly so. So sad; people rightly want to trust us.

Equally as sad, of course, are the men and women whose lives are at the very least put on hold for a year or two when malicious allegations are made. Even when these are proved to be totally untrue, there are still those who mutter about smoke and fire, lives are tarnished for ever.
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Old 9th Mar 2013, 22:01
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......Anglicans have female junior choirstors but Catholics don't.
and that, Milo, just shows the extent of your ignorance of the Catholic Church.
It used to be a JB rule that religion was not discussed here but of late there appears to be a concerted campaign against the Catholic Church by persons who choose only to quote those bits of information which suit themselves and delight in reporting any little snippet which they can obtain whether or not it can be verified. They ignore the fact that, regrettably, abuse is NOT restricted to the Catholic Church but has occured in other denominations and religions too. I would suggest that all of you who do this go away and do some proper research.
I have known one RC priest who was eventually convicted of abuse - he pleaded guilty to spare the victim and family any further distress. As soon as the allegation was made he was whizzed off to a specialist centre run by trained priests and religious where he was supervised and remained there until his trial and conviction, well away from children and former parishioners.
In the not too distant past there was a conviction of an Imam for cruel treatment of children attending lessons at a mosque.
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Old 9th Mar 2013, 22:20
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It used to be a JB rule that religion was not discussed here
The practical application of that rule has usually meant that promoting a religious faith is not permitted but mocking those who have a faith is open house.

I'm not a Catholic but I agree entirely with your comments about attacks upon the RC Church and the all too common implication that all RC priests are paedophiles.
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Old 9th Mar 2013, 22:42
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Alleged pedophile taught at B.C. school 6 months ago - World - CBC News

Funny when they get it right as they did with this Canadian in refusing to allow him even study it gets forgotten.

I have previously posted a NYC University study which saw no difference in abuse rates within religions.

Barnardos and NSPCC know who do the abuse within UK and its not religious that they worry about.
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Thank you Flying Lawyer and also Racedo.
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