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Old 19th Feb 2013, 23:52
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"During the early morning hours of 14 February 2013, I woke up, went onto the balcony to bring the fan in and closed the sliding doors, the blinds and the curtains. I heard a noise in the bathroom and realised that someone was in the bathroom.
I felt a sense of terror rushing over me. There are no burglar bars across the bathroom window and I knew that contractors who worked at my house had left the ladders outside. Although I did not have my prosthetic legs on I have mobility on my stumps. I believed that someone had entered my house. I was too scared to switch a light on.
I grabbed my 9mm pistol from underneath my bed. On my way to the bathroom I screamed words to the effect for him/them to get out of my house and for Reeva to phone the police. It was pitch dark in the bedroom and I thought Reeva was in bed.
I noticed that the bathroom window was open. I realised that the intruder/s was/were in the toilet because the toilet door was closed and I did not see anyone in the bathroom. I heard movement inside the toilet. The toilet is inside the bathroom and has a separate door.
It filled me with horror and fear of an intruder or intruders being inside the toilet. I thought he or they must have entered through the unprotected window.

As I did not have my prosthetic legs on and felt extremely vulnerable, I knew I had to protect Reeva and myself.

I believed that when the intruder/s came out of the toilet we would be in grave danger. I felt trapped as my bedroom door was locked and I have limited mobility on my stumps.
I fired shots at the toilet door and shouted to Reeva to phone the police. She did not respond and I moved backwards out of the bathroom, keeping my eyes on the bathroom entrance. Everything was pitch dark in the bedroom and I was still too scared to switch on a light. Reeva was not responding.

When I reached the bed, I realised that Reeva was not in bed. That is when it dawned on me that it could have been Reeva who was in the toilet. I returned to the bathroom calling her name. I tried to open the toilet door but it was locked. I rushed back into the bedroom and opened the sliding door exiting onto the balcony and screamed for help.
I put on my prosthetic legs, ran back to the bathroom and tried to kick the toilet door open.

I think I must then have turned on the lights.

I went back into the bedroom and grabbed my cricket bat to bash open the toilet door. A panel or panels broke off and I found the key on the floor and unlocked and opened the door. Reeva was slumped over but alive."
From (and more at):- Oscar Pistorius defence statement | World news | guardian.co.uk
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 01:16
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During the early morning hours of 14 February 2013, I woke up, went onto the balcony to bring the fan in and closed the sliding doors, the blinds and the curtains. I heard a noise in the bathroom and realised that someone was in the bathroom.
I felt a sense of terror rushing over me. There are no burglar bars across the bathroom window and I knew that contractors who worked at my house had left the ladders outside. Although I did not have my prosthetic legs on I have mobility on my stumps. I believed that someone had entered my house. I was too scared to switch a light on.
... and no bars across the sliding door (plus blinds, plus curtains) that were wide open before you woke up ...
I screamed words to the effect for him/them to get out of my house and for Reeva to phone the police.
So you expected both the intruder and Reeva to be able to hear you... she was awake in the toilet, but didn't respond to your screams?
I felt trapped as my bedroom door was locked
which you locked on the way out, right?
Everything was pitch dark in the bedroom and I was still too scared to switch on a light
How do you know? You just said the door was locked and you couldn't get back in? ....
When I reached the bed, I realised that Reeva was not in bed.
See above

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Old 20th Feb 2013, 01:24
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Pitch black room, yet he manages to navigate across it to get a gun from under his bed... whilst doing this he was unable to ascertain if Reeva was in the bed.

Utter rubbish
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 03:25
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Another troubling matter...

It seems that young Oscar and this young lady were not joined in the bonds of Holy Matrimony. Yet is seems that they were is a state of dress that, in the olden days, would have been called "undress." Certainly not in attire that a gentleman would have worn as he, for example, presented himself at his club--nor the lady in attire that would have been suitable for her social gatherings. No where in the narrative did I read mention of there being a chaperon present...ah when Cupid fires his arrows what conflagrations can sweep the senses toward errant and rash acts.
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 04:29
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Reeva was shot in the hip according to several reports i have seen. According to Oscar's story she was in the bathroom with the door locked. Odds are then she was sitting down, and as she hadnt heard Oscar "scream for her" then she was still sitting down. Depending on where the throne is, that makes it a hell of a hard target doesnt it? The hip i mean.
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 07:00
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Oscar's story smells like a truckload of herring.

Still, you never know - jocks are notoriously dim.

I expect, like Hansie, the Devil made him do it....

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Goes to show that no matter how pretty she is, someone, somewhere, is tired of putting up with her shit.



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Old 20th Feb 2013, 07:07
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yeah. Like some crime fiction - when you read it, it's ok, but when you think a bit, several things don't make sense. Like - why would she go to the bathroom in pitch dark. Not to wake her boyfriend from sweet Valentine dreams? Or why would a person so aware of crime fall asleep with the sliding doors open... it's also scary to think one would shoot first when hearing a noise behind a closed door.
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 08:50
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And the Oscar goes to............


Jail
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 09:11
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it's ironic isnt it the fawning media adoration of a person and then the shock-horror when they person turn out to be a grade A a-hole..

OK, OP talented sports person, that doesn't prevent him from a trigger happy rage merchant, that ceased the life of a young person just starting out on the journey of life.
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 09:39
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Out of interest, I was up with my boys at oodark a clock last night, not once did I turn a light on, but I got medicine out and measured and put away, both boys comforted and put to bed, used the loo and went back to bed and turned my audiobook back on. All in the dark. I think we have a physical memory for where things are.

Not excusing OP at all, just saying how he could have moved around with the light off.
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 09:44
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Originally Posted by stuckgear View Post

that doesn't prevent him from a trigger happy rage merchant, that ceased the life of a young person just starting out on the journey of life.
The inevitable consequence of mixing guns and unstable people under one roof is that some poor innocent ends up dead.
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 09:45
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Shirley there must have been some light, house security lights and neighbours lights. It's never that dark unless your out in the bush on an overcast and moonless night.
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 10:07
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I don't think any of us know how we would react under the stress and terror of a perceived intrusion by an armed assailant - and in SA you can take it for granted that they would be armed and ready use fire power.

It is perfectly feasible to get out of bed in the dark and not know whether your partner is there or not, and it is perfectly possible to manoeuvre round a familar room in total darkness.

There are aspects of his story which sound like BS, but there are also a lot of contradictions in the 'facts' as presented.

Whether he shot Reeva Steenkamp deliberately or not remains to be seen, but I think one has to try to feel the horror this young man must be going through. He's not exactly a hardened criminal (however, illegal fire arms possession and use of performance enhancing drugs have been mentioned).
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 10:21
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so the plot thickens like some agatha christie novel ...must admit this one has me errrrrrrrm stumped for an answer.
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 10:23
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There are aspects of his story which sound like BS, but there are also a lot of contradictions in the 'facts' as presented.
well there is that TV and the SA police of recent haven't exactly earned themselves a stellar reputation in terms of handling evidence, facts and crime.
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 11:17
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If, as an eyewitness has asserted, the couple were rowing for an hour beforehand and then shots were fired and there have been previous visits by the local constabulary to quell screaming and shouting I find it hard to find for the defendant........


Performance enhancing drugs do make most imbibers very aggressive IMHO

With his overseas accounts I wouldn't grant him bail if I were the judge........
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 11:24
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I get the idea police ineptitude is going to turn this into another OJ farce.
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 11:26
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Maybe she was shagged out and escaped to rest in the bathroom.

I mean, a guy with two stumps ...
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 11:37
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I get the idea police ineptitude is going to turn this into another OJ
farce.
Oscar Pistorius murder charge: latest - Telegraph

Certainly does and some details leaked earlier, bloody cricket bat and fractured skull, not true.
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 11:52
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08.31 Oscar Pistorius, who has begun to cry again, had a licence for the gun he killed Ms Steenkamp with. But there was an unlicensed 38mm pistol in the safe in his bedroom.
38mm pistol ?
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