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Old 19th Apr 2002, 08:44
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Freindly Fire

Can somone tell me what it is about the damned American Airforce that causes them to attack and kill their own troops, or troops allied to them, time after time after time.

We all know of their Hotshot Flyboy, Top Gun, Hollywood attitude, that is legendary. its just that no other Airfoce has a record of such carnage. Things are simply getting out of hand.

Am I not correct to say that friendly fire was responsible for more deaths in the Gulf War and the Bosnian Conflict, than enemy fire.

Are they going for a new record in the Afghan War/Conflict.

This is a disgraceful reflection on what is supposed to be a Professional Fighting Force
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Old 19th Apr 2002, 09:38
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You are certainly right for UK forces in the Gulf - more killed by Americans than by Iraqis. No wonder we get irritated with Americans ...
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These incidents are tragic and I wouldn't want to pretend otherwise, but to call the USAF cowboys is simply unfair. The fact that the US usually contribute 90% of the airpower in places like Bosnia, The Gulf and now Afghanistan means they're statistically the most likely to have "friendly fire" incidents.
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Old 19th Apr 2002, 11:22
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No " freind' of the US eh Grifo?

Never, happened in the British forces SC??
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Old 19th Apr 2002, 11:33
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What is the point of running two thread's on here? you have one running on the military site.

are you mad? or do you work for the U S intelligence agency?
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Old 19th Apr 2002, 11:40
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Nostradormant,
what's your prob. Can you simply not read or did you just get up too early this morning. Go back to your thread , read it again and apologise.
As for me running another similar thread on the miltary forum. well now we are in spooksville. I know nothing of that. kindly point to the thread and I will read it with interest

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Old 19th Apr 2002, 11:41
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He's not sure the subject is getting enough air time, and he surely doesn't work for any 'intelligence' agency US or otherwise.
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Old 19th Apr 2002, 11:45
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Do the sensible thing and remove it. we have it covered I promise you.
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Old 19th Apr 2002, 14:16
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Nostradamus,
I am not entirely sure what your problem is. All I can tell you is that I strated a thread with the same name, prior to yours, this morning. Thats All, nothing more.

I then proceeded to cut and paste my original posting on your similarly named thread, nothing more.

What are you wittering on about Military sites anf stuff. Its rather degrading to be treated like this on a public forum. Do me a favour, re-read my posting on your forum, point me to my supposed posting on the Miltary Forum, then get back to me. I realise YOU have the Friendly Fire thing well covered. what do I care, I just do not like all this derogatory stuff. Now go away and do what I say and get back to me with an undistorted view, eh Sir
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Old 19th Apr 2002, 14:27
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And here fellow ppruners we have a perfect example of friendly fire. Both on the same side swopping light banter
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Old 19th Apr 2002, 14:44
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No, El Grifo. The other thread predates yours by 20 hours.
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Old 19th Apr 2002, 14:44
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You posted your point on the original thread, then put exactly the same thing on the thread that was already running
what was the point?

And if you started a thread with the same name this morning as you claim, what was the point of that, when this one was started yesterday?

You have had far to much sun , now run along and lie down for a rest, this is obviously to much for you!!!
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Old 19th Apr 2002, 14:45
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So El Grifo, you started your thread at posted 19th April 2002 08:44 this morning prior to Nostradamus who started his thread 18th April 2002 12:08 yesterday.
Can I borrow your time machine to get the lottery results for tommorow ?
I think we should just keep the thred by Nostradamus as he can spell friend.

Edited because I cant spell

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Old 19th Apr 2002, 15:07
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Your comment's EL grifo? let me help you SORRY?
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Old 19th Apr 2002, 15:10
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Thanks Hugmonster,

You are absolutley correct. I only spotted Nostrdumb-ass' posting after I had posted mines.

The date and time of the most recent posting on his thread was 25mins or so after my thread commenced.

I assumed this to be the timing of the original thread commencing. I appreciate your pointing it out in a civilised manner. I made an error and I apologise for that.

The only good thing about it is, that I have to a certain extent, unmasked Nostradamus and Paterbrat as a couple of loutish ruffians who appear to expect compliance with the loudest voice.

I will " go to the west and diminish"

Until next time !!!!!!!
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Old 19th Apr 2002, 15:19
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So the penny has dropped? I myself don't mind being called a loutish ruffian, I cannot speak for paterbrat though.

I would like to point out that assumption's may have attributed to the "friendly fire" incident's,you dont fly an F16 do you?
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Old 19th Apr 2002, 15:32
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Nostro says ;-

"I would like to point out that assumption's may have attributed to the "friendly fire" incident's,you dont fly an F16 do you?"

Could you run that by me again in traditional syntax please Nostro, after which I would be happy to address yout question
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Old 19th Apr 2002, 15:42
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I HOPE I already know the answer, however,DO YOU FLY AN F16?
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Old 19th Apr 2002, 15:54
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Hang on nostro, let me check the hanger - - - - - -

No, it looks like my trusty old Airwave Rave Paraglider, Last Years Model. Mind you it does have comparable all round vision !!

Guess I will have to blow my Birthday cake candles out a bit harder next year.

Now that we have got that out of the way, I would be interested to hear what the linkage between my choice of flying machine and the freeendly fire incidents is.
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Old 19th Apr 2002, 16:06
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Well grifo,its like this, I was trying to point out that the people who were killed, were killed on the assumption that they were the enemy. and that assumption is a dangerous thing. I assumed correctly that you dont fly an F16, or indeed operate any heavy piece of machinary. just in case you assume the airfield has moved.
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