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Old 10th Jan 2013, 15:12
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UK Traffic Law

So Girlfriend of Akbar, a District Nurse gets pulled over by the Rozzers this morning for having a faulty brake light bulb. Upon being made aware, g/f replies that she will get her fella to change the bulb today. The Police have told her that the bulb must be changed by a recognised car mechanic business, and paperwork stamped by them to prove the work is carried out.

Is this correct??
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Old 10th Jan 2013, 15:15
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No - change the bulb and take the car to the police office to check that it's working. Or just change the bulb and be done with it.

The police have no remit to demand such a course of action.
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Old 10th Jan 2013, 15:18
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Faults with your vehicle

If your vehicle has something wrong with it, eg a broken brake light, the police may give you a ‘vehicle defect rectification notice’.

You’ll need to get your vehicle fixed and provide proof that it’s been fixed (eg a receipt for the work from a mechanic). You have 14 days from the date of the notice to show the proof to the police.

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Old 10th Jan 2013, 15:29
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ORAC is correct.

From the AA website …..

You will normally be required to take the vehicle to an MOT test station to obtain official verification that the defect(s) noted by the Police have been rectified. If the MOT test centre is a general repair garage you can of course ask them to repair the defect too.

If the nominated tester is satisfied that the defects listed on the vehicle defect rectification form have been properly rectified he will complete the appropriate section of the form. Check that they have included their Vehicle Test Station number and that the form has been endorsed using an official embossing or rubber stamp showing the testing station's business details.

This is not a formal MOT test. You will pay a commercial rate for the inspection (no set fees are published) and you should be told of any other faults the tester notices in the course of his inspection, but no MOT paperwork will be issued.

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Old 10th Jan 2013, 15:36
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Christ what a racket that is.. How many coppers have shares in MOT testing stations??
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Jeezuz..

You guys really need more citizens with guns...
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Old 10th Jan 2013, 15:38
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It doesn't happen often, however...



Very witty.
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Old 10th Jan 2013, 15:39
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Does that work then? You can commit any traffic offences you like with no risk of being stopped because the police are afraid you might have a gun?
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Old 10th Jan 2013, 15:43
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...or carry spare bulbs, and know how to change them?


Nothing to do with the Police. It's just not a good idea to drive around with broken bulbs.
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Old 10th Jan 2013, 15:52
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Though it is amazing the number of police vehicles that have defective lights! The last time I pointed this out to the driver I suggested his passenger issued him a Vehicle Defect Notice!
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Old 10th Jan 2013, 15:57
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I would have expected that Staffordshire Police might just have told her to sort it, and leave it at that.. Obviously they had nothing better to do..
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Old 10th Jan 2013, 16:03
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I am normally on the side of the police but this is ludicrous, it's another example of the bully/nanny state taking over. For a serious defect or one which might be beyond the scope of the average handyman it might be reasonable, but what's happened here is that the police officer has had his power of discretion taken away from him.

This is a f..... brake light FFS! Thin end of the wedge.
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Though it is amazing the number of police vehicles that have defective lights! The last time I pointed this out to the driver I suggested his passenger issued him a Vehicle Defect Notice!
thank you.. i just snorted tea through my nose.
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Old 10th Jan 2013, 16:09
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Old 10th Jan 2013, 16:10
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I think the written word is being taken too literally and has been designed for issues not readily identifiable as being repaired.

No way I would take it to a garage, I would change the bulb, self certify it had been done and when taking my written certification to the police station I would take said vehicle just in case they wanted to see it.

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Old 10th Jan 2013, 16:13
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Gertrude, when I get stopped for a burned out taillight, I generally get a warning which, if I get stopped again for the same infraction, will probably result in a ticket.

For the present, anyway, I, as a citizen with 22 years of post-high school education, don't have to apply to a state-approved wonk to verify that I can replace a light bulb.
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Old 10th Jan 2013, 16:28
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I generally get a warning which, if I get stopped again for the same infraction, will probably result in a ticket
That's what I would expect, yes. Had a brake light fail a couple of weeks ago - several people told me about it, but I got it replaced before a policeman saw it. But I wouldn't have had a problem showing the police the receipt for £2.16 if that's what turned out to be necessary.
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what's happened here is that the police officer has had his power of discretion taken away from him.
Not sure that I agree.

the police may give you a ‘vehicle defect rectification notice’.
That suggests an element of discretion, but evidently not exercised this time.


...or carry spare bulbs, and know how to change them?
Carrying spare bulbs is not a bad idea, and mandatory in some countries. Once upon a time changing car bulbs was an easy roadside job. But not so now on many modern vehicles.

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Old 10th Jan 2013, 16:53
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I never ever needed to change any bulbs of my 12 year old 140,000 mile Peugeot (which I owned from nearly new), though I always carried a full set together with the tools (and the service manual) so that I could tackle the problem.

Shortly before the last MOT was due I found that both stoplamps weren't working, but it turned-out to be a sticking stoplamp switch (on the brake pedal) which responded to a squirt of WD40.
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