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Old 26th Aug 2018, 16:53
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Old 26th Aug 2018, 18:31
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Deja Vu all over again

What you gender neutral persons all need to do is to go back and read the first 10 or 20 posts in this thread.
More if ze've a touch of masochist about ze.
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 02:29
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Maybe all this will finally get the message through that we don't "vote for a prime minister", under the constitution there is no such office anyway. If people paid closer attention to their local candidates instead of all the outdated ideological party BS that spews out of Canberra from the "leaders" then we might start to have real representation there.
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 03:10
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Originally Posted by Clare Prop View Post
Maybe all this will finally get the message through that we don't "vote for a prime minister", under the constitution there is no such office anyway. If people paid closer attention to their local candidates instead of all the outdated ideological party BS that spews out of Canberra from the "leaders" then we might start to have real representation there.
Spot on Clare. Interesting that both Bill Shorten and Tanya Plibersek came out with praise for Malcolm Turnbull.
I still believe that it makes no difference which of the laborials hold the treasury benches, they govern for the rich and the bankers.

In discussions I have had, most people say they are voting minor parties or independants, hopefully they put the major parties at the bottom. An education program about voting could help with this, especially as we have compulsory voting in our country.

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Old 27th Aug 2018, 03:38
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Have you not noticed that the bulk of the "independents" are either ex-Liberals, aspiring Liberals or too far right to be allowed to openly associate with the Liberals (except with Peter Dutton in dimly lit alcoves).
I have long held that holding office is in itself a prima facie reason to hold a parliamentarian in contempt and to vote them out at the first opportunity.
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 05:59
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From a couple of years ago but utterly appropriate:

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Old 27th Aug 2018, 08:03
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Only those on the distant end of the right think Dutton is a viable PM. Nobody else does. Turnbull's failures are largely related to pandering to Dutton supporters.
As written, le Pingouin, a complete load of twaddle. Turnbull's unfailing urge to drag the LNP to the left and behaving like a big marshmallow when it gets to decision time are responsible for, as Dee Vee said, his miserable NBN failure, Energy price/privatisation failures, bank and superannuation failures, neighbour country relationship failures, business tax cut failures. When Scott-Morrison got the job the cry out side of the CBD of most major cities was, "Scott who?" Dutton was the Australian popular choice but got beaten by left leaning Turnbull supporters in the parliamentary Liberal party who are only planning their own futures, in opposition, they don't give a stuff for the future of 23 million Australians or a country called Australia.
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 08:34
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You're clearly part of what sees itself as the Libs "base". Dutton was Australia's popular choice??? You really need to get out more and listen to a wider range of opinions. Plenty of avowed Liberal voters were horrified at the thought. Maybe you're a tinier minority than you think.... The utterly unedifying display of the last week clearly indicates who doesn't give a stuff about Australia and was only interested in their own grab for power and ideology.
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 13:29
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Originally Posted by parabellum View Post
Dutton was the Australian popular choice...
You're dreaming. Dutton's popularity in his own electorate is minimal. And his Newspoll PPM numbers were even lower than Morrison's.

BTW, why do you hyphenate Scott Morrison?
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 19:11
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I think, as a country, we are fed up with ‘extremism’. Political or otherwise.
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 22:06
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Originally Posted by Hempy View Post
I think, as a country, we are fed up with ‘extremism’. Political or otherwise.
Fair point, but I wouldn't call the political mechanations extremism. Having said that I don't know what to call it.
Some seem concerned that Morrison belongs to that fundamentalist church on the Hill, in my opinion that would help make the man more empathetic to the man in the street.

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Old 28th Aug 2018, 00:43
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How do you think belonging to Hillsong would make someone like Morrison more empathetic?
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 02:26
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The cartoons depicting Dutton as a potato are just SO accurate!
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 06:19
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Originally Posted by Crownstay01 View Post
How do you think belonging to Hillsong would make someone like Morrison more empathetic?
Do you think a man of faith would not have empathy?
I believe it would.
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 08:00
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Osama bin Laden was also a faithful man.
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 10:00
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Osama bin Laden was also a faithful man.
My Muslim friend assures me that Osama was not a man of faith. Taking of life is not part of the Quran nor any other Muslim dictate.

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Old 28th Aug 2018, 13:10
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Originally Posted by Eddie Dean View Post
Do you think a man of faith would not have empathy? I believe it would.
I know what I think. I'm asking you WHY you think as you do.
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 13:20
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Religious belief very definitely does not imply empathy. Doubly so when mixed with fundamentalist religion. Doubly so again when mixed with right-wing politics.
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 21:55
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Originally Posted by Eddie Dean View Post
My Muslim friend assures me that Osama was not a man of faith. Taking of life is not part of the Quran nor any other Muslim dictate.

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"Osama did nothing wrong" is not exactly something you say in polite company!
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 02:11
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Originally Posted by chuboy View Post
"Osama did nothing wrong" is not exactly something you say in polite company!
Of course he was a criminal, which makes him not a man of faith by any stretch.
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