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Old 14th Apr 2016, 01:05
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Hempy; I genuinely do not know to what you are referring!

Do you really want me to quote you?
Please do.
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 04:28
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Take your personal bickering to private message please.
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 05:23
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Hempy is probably not a staffer, a moderator perhaps, but he definitely is someone who gets a great deal of pleasure from stirring people up on various threads.,
Perhaps there would be less bickering if he were the one who is given a "rest" rather than those who are subjected to his continuous drivel.
Oh dear, I've gone and done it again, stated the obvious. Perhaps I will be the one rested,again....or banned maybe.
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 05:47
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People will get rested and banned if they want to take personal swipes at other posters
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Old 17th Apr 2016, 11:42
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Ah, yes. "Continuity and Change" The muppet caint even dream up his own slogans...

Next he will be channeling long dead Queen Victoria and telling us we should be building more of the 18th century's best technology - Railways...


A quarter of his supporters gone in a few short months...

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Old 18th Apr 2016, 09:22
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Looks like a DD election is on the way.
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Old 21st Apr 2016, 01:09
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France and Germany have an escalating islamic problem within their borders. Why were countries that will have major civil strife looming in the near future ever even considered as a submarine supplier to Australia ?...




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Old 21st Apr 2016, 04:18
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And the answer is probably because there is no correlation between having "an islamic problem" and having expertise in submarine design and manufacture !!
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Old 21st Apr 2016, 05:21
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Originally Posted by Flying Binghi View Post
France and Germany have an escalating islamic problem within their borders.
Half of all available French troops are now deployed on internal security, guarding transport hubs, nuclear power plants, tourist spots and synagogues.
It is putting a big strain on training, leave and availability for traditional deployments and rotations.
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Old 21st Apr 2016, 05:53
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Siti ... I think that the Australian Army are either already guarding such assets or are planning to do so in the near future.
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Old 21st Apr 2016, 07:57
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And the answer is probably because there is no correlation between having "an islamic problem" and having expertise in submarine design and manufacture !!
The most likely combat situations Oz troops will see in the future will likely be with an islamic lead/influenced group/country. It would be highly likely that islamic groups in France or Germany will seek to interfer with and possibly stop submarine delivery and later with parts and maintenance supply. It would be achieved through terrorism or even the ballot box. One only needs to look at the influence Australia's relativity far smaller islamic community has over our pea brained labor politicians for an example of the looming European disintegration.

Japan is one of Australia's closest allies and a country with major interests in our part of the world. We would be far better served closely aligning our US styled militaries and enhancing each others military production capabilities.




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Old 21st Apr 2016, 10:54
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Except the Germans are proposing to build all of the boats in South Australia at no greater cost than it would have been had they built them in Germany.
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Old 21st Apr 2016, 11:59
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Do we even need submarines, I thought that the navy had serious issues getting enough crew to operate the collins class. I would think investment in unmanned technology would be better spent.
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Old 21st Apr 2016, 13:29
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It's ok Ethel

Labor will be returned at the next election and will no doubt do nothing about Defence other than rip money out of its budget.
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Old 21st Apr 2016, 14:02
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The way I see it is that, politically, practically and economically, the South Australian submarine proposal is the only way it will go.

As for Labor getting in... Nah!
They've still got a couple of electoral cycles to go before they get it together enough to even present themselves as a credible alternative government - and even then, they'd be pushing it.
Mind you though, if the Mad Monk and his backers, who won't accept the referee's decision, are determined to keep on white-anting the government, then there is going to be trouble.

As for Australian troops being actively out there guarding our infrastructure and tourism assets, well, all I can say is that their camouflage must be more effective than I'd thought.
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Old 21st Apr 2016, 21:41
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Except the Germans are proposing to build all of the boats in South Australia at no greater cost than it would have been had they built them in Germany.
The problem there is they will not actually be building all of the boat in SA.

Last I looked Australia dont have much of a manufacturing industry.

Who will manufacture the specialist steel for the hulls?
Who will manufacture and supply parts for the diesel electric motors?
Who will manufacture the hydraulic systems and maintenance spare parts?
Who will manufacture the electrical equipment and ongoing maintence parts that runs the boat?
etc...

Japan has those industries and more.

CoodaShooda, I'm sure you can probably add to that list.




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Old 21st Apr 2016, 21:57
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Hi Binghi

The spin the Germans are putting on it is that they will bring the technology here, just as they have done in China.

I'm not sure they have factored in our IR constraints though.

Stanwell

It's not so much Labor winning but the Coalition losing. They've lost the Nursing Home vote, or so I hear.
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Old 22nd Apr 2016, 00:11
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Sat well ...I did say that the Australian Army was 'planning' to guard such assets,hence their invisibility.
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Old 22nd Apr 2016, 01:05
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Glad to see you still have the finger on the pulse 71,
I thought it was a forgone conclusion that Japan would win the contract, most likely obsolete and of course well over budget when finished.
Glad to see Mirabella making noise again. Her and Michaela Cash would be a wonderful team
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Old 22nd Apr 2016, 02:17
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Question

What has happened to Worralls and her perceptive posts?
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