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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 23rd Feb 2016, 06:26
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Originally Posted by Clare Prop
I wonder though, was the problem that they didn't want to release the baby back into the hands of parents who had deliberately burned their baby to rort the immigration system (sounds more than reasonable) or was it really as the hand wringers would have us beleive? That it was Nauru that was the problem? In which case when was the general election when these doctors were voted into government?
As the good 'ole boys say, never let the facts get in the way of a bigoted rant...

Police dismiss claims Baby Asha deliberately hurt by mother in order to leave Nauru | Australia news | The Guardian
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Old 23rd Feb 2016, 08:11
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Hmm,
While I treat anything I read in the Grauniad with the same caution that I accord anything propagated by Murdoch's acolytes...
A few things make me wonder about this case.

As reported in the (Murdoch) Courier Mail, a security guard had stated that the baby's mother confessed to deliberately causing the injury.
Queensland Police also had confirmed that they'd been notified of a Child Protection Order (although they're being a little coy about when and by whom).

I was talking to a Nepalese couple (neighbours) a little earlier this evening.
They were of the firm opinion that a Nepalese woman could never deliberately harm a child - any child.
Unless, of course, she were mentally unhinged... (hmm).
It's been my life experience, though, that some people will do, or say, anything to achieve what they see, at the time, to be an important goal.

Then, there's the Guardian article itself, which struck me as giving an unduly large amount of space to the 'refugee advocates' et cetera.
Big on emotive language, but a bit short on facts.
One 'advocate' in particular, a Shen Narayanasamy, a human rights director for GetUp, accused (Minister) Dutton of ignoring the medical evidence.
"Dutton is in possession of medical reports which clearly state that Baby Asha's injuries were accidental", Nayaranasamy said.

What??
The medical report simply states.. "There is no clinical evidence that the burn injury was non-accidental".

The Guardian article then goes on to air, at length, the 'advocates' claims that this supposed disingenuousness on the part of the Minister is akin to
Peter Reith's 'Children Overboard' saga from some years ago.
Talk about clutching at straws.
These "Advocates" wouldn't dream of playing with the truth to suit their own agenda, would they?

When this bullsh1t-fest is over, I do hope the poor pawn (sorry, I mean child) suffers no lasting ill-effects.
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Old 23rd Feb 2016, 08:25
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There are plenty of other links carrying the story, that just happened to be the first one in my news feed. Oh, and the mother is from Nepal, that hotbed of Islamic fundamentalism....
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Old 23rd Feb 2016, 23:40
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4.4% of the Nepalese population is Islamic, so who knows what the mother's thoughts may be. Certain sections of the Muslim population follow the Muslim Brotherhood brand, now there is a fundamentalist group.

The stated goals of the Muslim Brotherhood are as follows:

1. Inform the world about Islam and spread its teachings
2. Unify the world under the banner of Islam
3. Raise the standard of living and achieve social justice
4. Fight disease, poverty, ignorance and hunger
5. Liberate the Ummah (Islamic nation) from foreign rule
6. Establish a worldwide Islamic state (caliphate)
7. Build a new world civilization based on sharia and Islam.

Muslim Brotherhood brand in Nepal

Muslim Mirror Nepal unrest: No solution in sight, Terai death toll 59

Whatever the rights or wrongs on either side, peaceful it isn't.

http://smartraveller.gov.au/countries/nepal

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Old 24th Feb 2016, 08:48
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lol yes, those earthquakes are caused by Muslim fundamentalists....
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Old 25th Feb 2016, 05:42
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those earthquakes are caused by Muslim fundamentalists
Well I never, you learn something new every day.
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Old 7th Mar 2016, 12:45
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So the Monk and his chief of staff were bumping nasties, what (not) a surprise.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/...f0eaae87a0df27
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Old 7th Mar 2016, 21:16
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Credlin was always said to be a piece of work and this certainly speaks to that. Some of the things she is said to have done are absolutely outrageous from any person let alone the chief of staff to the PM.
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Old 8th Mar 2016, 22:35
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The journalist that wrote the book, Nikki Savva, writes a column in The Australian and thrives on attacking people she doesn't like with unsupported innuendo, she walks a very fine line between just permissible muck raking and libel.
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Old 9th Mar 2016, 03:12
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She was also a Liberal staffer for 9 years.
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Old 9th Mar 2016, 04:32
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Yes Hempy, she also hates Abbott and loves Marshmallow Malcolm!
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Old 9th Mar 2016, 20:14
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It would seem that Tony Windsor is about to announce today that he will re-enter federal politics by contesting his old seat against Barnaby Joyce.

He's obviously done some number crunching before making such a move and thinks he's in there with a chance. With the University of New England situated in the electorate, there might just be enough leftie academics and brainwashed students in the electorate to swing it for him.

If he succeeds, it will be proof positive that the Australian electorate has the memory span of a gnat. Or should that be a goldfish?
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Old 9th Mar 2016, 22:26
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Yes Hempy, she also hates Abbott and loves Marshmallow Malcolm!
Bit like the larger percentage of the Lib party then.
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Old 10th Mar 2016, 00:44
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If he succeeds, it will be proof positive that the Australian electorate has the memory span of a gnat. Or should that be a goldfish?
Either of the two would be a fair description.
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Old 10th Mar 2016, 05:18
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Pinky, Labor and the Greens are assured of a goodly number of votes in every election from the eighteen to twenty year olds who have no recollection of how badly every last Labor government mishandled the purse strings along with damn near everything else about governing the country because they were kids then.

For too many children these days, dinner consists of scoffing what's put in front of them while watching 'Home and Away' on TV. Few have any real experience of sitting around the dinner table and discussing the events of the day with their parents (and so many of them don't have a father figure in the house), so all most of them have ever heard about politics is what they've been fed by almost totally Left-leaning school teachers.

So they vote for Labor - or even more often, the Greens. I've seen this in my own extended family. If you ask them about Greens' policies, they haven't got a clue - only that they're good for the environment (whatever that means) and are trying to fix... (ascending drum roll and momentous background music) - Global Warming (my capitals), which is a Good Thing (again, my capitals).

This is how Tony Windsor could get up in New England. With a large university in the electorate, there'll be a disproportionate number of 18 to 20 year olds voting in that electorate.
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Old 11th Mar 2016, 02:13
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Reporter on TV this morning said it would need at least a 19% swing against Joyce for the Muppet Windsor to beat him, seems unlikely to me, 9% or 10% possibly?
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Old 11th Mar 2016, 03:22
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I know by-elections are different to general elections, but wasn't there a 19% swing against the Libs in Joe Hockey's old seat (North Sydney)?

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a swing of that size in primary votes. Many will give their first vote to a no hope of winning independent on the understanding that their preferences will eventually reach the Libs, but hey want to register a protest, and this is the only way they can short of voting informal - or for Labor, as some say they will.
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Old 11th Mar 2016, 03:59
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I think you're on the money there, Fubaar.
Joyce's performance WRT local matters has left many of his constituents less than impressed.
He's perceived to have been a bit too busy with matters other than what the voters elected him to attend to.

That said, I do hope the New Englanders have woken up to Tony Windsor and his game.
If they haven't, they deserve everything they get.

Our politics here are refined only to the extent that 'plain brown envelopes' are not accidentally left on the desk..
It's just quietly mentioned over 'drinkies' where they may be found.
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Old 11th Mar 2016, 07:32
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Apparently your old mate Tony "slaps her on the bum bum "was trying to get Truss to stay on so Joyce wouldn't become deputy, Now that's a ringing endorsement if ever I heard one.
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Old 11th Mar 2016, 07:57
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Former PM John Howard admits advising Tony Abbott to sack Peta Credlin
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