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Old 12th Oct 2015, 12:34
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Originally Posted by parabellum
Originally Posted by Ethel the Aardvark
only been in the job a couple of weeks and he is sorting out the city's light rail problems, launched an nbn satellite, signed off on a new army vehicle contract, sorted out the submarine debacle
Think about it Ethel, just about all those projects were given birth under Abbott's government
NONE of those projects were given birth under Abbott's government!! To claim they were is complete BS.
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Old 12th Oct 2015, 12:49
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Be my guest fb, if that's all you need to improve the decor of your place who I am to object?
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Old 13th Oct 2015, 12:35
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Interesting article in the Australian today. It quotes a study, commissioned by the Gillard government, that looked at 8500 entrants under the humanitarian resettlement program. It found that after 5 years, 6 out of 10 migrants had failed to get a job. 85% received welfare. Fewer than 1 in 10 Iraqis or Afghans had work. 94 in every 100 were on welfare.

So as I have said before. Some ( not all ) come here, suck off our welfare and work out ways to kill us.
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Old 13th Oct 2015, 23:21
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via SOPS:
...work out ways to kill us.
You've got it all wrong SOPS. There has only been one little incident...

"...NSW federal Liberal MP Fiona Scott was interviewed by Sky News about the Islamic terrorist attack in Parramatta that killed police employee Curtis Cheng. During her interview, Scott said this:

We’ve had a hundred years, more than a century of relationships with our Islamic communities where it’s lived quite peacefully, and one little incident over 100 years has been what we have had..."


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Old 14th Oct 2015, 00:21
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Why do politicians tie themselves in knots trying to avoid saying what we all know is true?
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 00:24
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An astute NSW politician should be aware of the reasons behind the forming of the NSW Middle East Organised Crime Squad..... or the recent antics of Auburn Council and one of it's councilors.....to name just two examples.

Oh wait, her excuse must be that she is a federal polly.
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 01:02
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Politicians have an inherent dread of the truth, because it can't be manipulated, unlike lies, which can (Josef Goebbels was the undisputed master of this, although these days he has some stiff competition).

I am beginning to wonder what odds could I get with Ladbrokes on which Australian politician will be the first to convert to Islam? A two-horse race between Sarah Hanson-Young and Malcolm Turnbull, anyone?

Bill Shorten can safely be left out of speculation because he is already a member of a fanatical religious cult - the Union Movement.

A plague on all politicians!
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 01:46
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Warwick Hughes is getting impatient...

The ABC reports – Geert Wilders’ visa delay ‘an assault on freedom of speech’, says new anti-Islam party Australian Liberty Alliance – Most of those right of centre Australian voters who are interested will have heard of Geert Wilders by now and will not need him to convince them to vote for the Australian Liberty Alliance (ALA). Just now with the coronation of Malcolm Turnbull and assorted Jihadis plying their trade in Australia the ALA has an avalanche of circumstances working in its favour. Sooner they launch the better.

So the Australian Govt is slow to issue Geert Wilders a visa ? the Australian Liberty Alliance should stand on its own two feet and launch the party ASAP | Errors in IPCC climate science




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Old 14th Oct 2015, 01:55
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Originally Posted by SOPS View Post
Interesting article in the Australian today. It quotes a study, commissioned by the Gillard government, that looked at 8500 entrants under the humanitarian resettlement program. It found that after 5 years, 6 out of 10 migrants had failed to get a job. 85% received welfare. Fewer than 1 in 10 Iraqis or Afghans had work. 94 in every 100 were on welfare.

So as I have said before. Some ( not all ) come here, suck off our welfare and work out ways to kill us.
Go on SOPS, tell us what some (not all) of the home grown Aussies do with their spare time while you're at it!

Dealing meth?
Robbing petrol stations?
Beating their wives and children?



But honestly, I do see you what you're trying to say with those stats. While they made you feel angry and resentful, they only made me feel a bit sad. I really doubt that 85% would wholly prefer to be on welfare than working in the community. Much the same as all welfare recipients.

Why don't we have an environment where people who want to work can do so?

Now that I think of it, are asylum seekers even allowed to work or is that not permitted under their visa conditions?
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 02:27
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The humanitarium resettlement program not the same as a bridging visa for people who came on boats, where they can't work or get centrelink. More info here

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/our-w...asylum-seekers
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 04:40
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I really doubt that 85% would wholly prefer to be on welfare than working in the community.
chuboy - I seriously doubt that you have much experience of working or living in the Middle East?
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 04:58
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I never claimed to?

Few of us would work if we didn't have to! What I meant was that considering how much is on offer from Centrelink I do doubt that welfare is preferable to working, except perhaps to the laziest of ne'er-do-wells (surely not 85% of humanitarian migrants).
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 05:20
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There are some amazing welfare scams running at the moment chuboy, the one quoted in the press was an lady of ME origin with four kids, taking maximum allowances from c'link, then she says she cannot cope, needs help, fortunately another ME lady only a few doors away agrees and now gets carers allowance, this little earner runs in a circle back to the original lady who is also getting carers allowance for looking after kids from next door etc.
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 05:55
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Do you mean "the press" as in Fairfax/News Ltd? Or "the press" as in an unsourced blog post or blog comment by Bolt/Ackerman/et al?

If the former, I would be interested to see a link. Although I think it is a long bow to draw to say such convoluted arrangements are the norm. In my experience most people find it hard enough just to receive centrelink payments that they would be genuinely entitled to
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 11:13
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...centrelink payments..

Meanwhile, in a land far, far, away, famous pprunian Dick Smith savages malcolm turn-of-bull...


Dick Smith savages Malcolm Turnbull for shielding rich from tax transparency





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Old 18th Oct 2015, 01:11
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Victim of islamic terrorism Curtis Cheng is laid to rest and turnbull is....
Where? ....getting his ego massaged in NZ..

I suppose a terrorist attack on the Australian Police is nothing to them banker boys..





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Old 18th Oct 2015, 05:30
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Yep what we need is lots of pomp and circumstance, make a huge deal out of it. Declare it a national day off to mourn. All flags at half mast for a week. Maybe a posthumous knighting (are they still doing that?)

Roll out the PM, get the GG as well, hell see if the Queen will turn up.

Maybe time to start TSA-style pat-downs before you leave a building.

Not to demean the man's life but interrupting the spinning of the cart of life's wheels over a "terrorist attack" is exactly what "they" want. Better not to indulge "them".

Anders Brevik could have been put to death over his atrocities and he would have been made into a martyr in doing so. Instead he is rotting in prison with no ceremony and in time the person and cause will be forgotten about. The way it should be.
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Old 18th Oct 2015, 05:36
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Agreed Chuboy, except treat the vermin like a rabid dog circling your camp, no emotion just shoot it.
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Old 18th Oct 2015, 09:53
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Yep what we need is lots of pomp and circumstance, make a huge deal out of it. Declare it a national day off to mourn. All flags at half mast for a week. Maybe a posthumous knighting (are they still doing that?)

Roll out the PM, get the GG as well, hell see if the Queen will turn up.

Maybe time to start TSA-style pat-downs before you leave a building.

Not to demean the man's life but interrupting the spinning of the cart of life's wheels over a "terrorist attack" is exactly what "they" want. Better not to indulge "them".

Anders Brevik could have been put to death over his atrocities and he would have been made into a martyr in doing so. Instead he is rotting in prison with no ceremony and in time the person and cause will be forgotten about. The way it should be.
Then Prime Minister rudd and leader of the opposition turnbull attended a memorial service for Michael Fussell. Seems when turbull was in opposition he saw the 'need' to attend a memorial service and now he's in 'power' its not worth his bother. turnbull is self serving garbage..

Some other snippets...
Howard attended the terrorist attack Bali bombings memorial service. Gillard attended the 10 year Bali memorial service. Tony Abbott attended the Martin Place terrorist attack victims memorial service. Howard even attended a Canberra memorial service for the London bus terrorist attack victims.




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Old 18th Oct 2015, 09:59
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https://mobile.twitter.com/mickyrosenfeld


h/t - http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegr...abbing_season/





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