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Old 8th Oct 2015, 10:31
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Thanks for that, interesting . Of course they may not be keen to release all that info, particularly anything that's too non-PC.
I'm sorry you're getting the runaround from DVA. They were very good to my grandfather (including organizing a decent cleaning service), but I guess it depends on which operative you get and what area you're in.

If you haven't already done so, tell them you're writing a complaint to the Minister (and do so). Make sure that the letter contains a direct request for a response from his office.
Everyone assumes that letters to MPs doesn't go anywhere, but IME within the Australian Public Service that was not the case. It was amazing how quickly the department could action a Ministerial and rectify a problem, given their complete inability to process anything else.

P.S. IME there's a few different schools of thought on whether it's better to email or snail mail. Be aware that most MPs use email sorting software so if you email (or use the web based submission), keep it clear and concise so it ends up in the correct folder. One doctrine is that you're best off (legibly) handwriting your request, because then it has to be read by a human in the office. The downside is that these days it can seem a bit eccentric, though the Minister for Vets office are probably used to it. As always, just my $0.02

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Old 8th Oct 2015, 10:40
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DVA have been excellent to my Mum. Although she does live in Canberra..
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Old 10th Oct 2015, 06:28
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turnbull the muppet...

"...turnbull was booed by his own party members during an address at the Liberal Party State Council yesterday... ...was met by a chorus of laughter and jeers from sections of the crowd..."

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/a...rnbull_jeered/

Hmm... So, when turnbull got turfed out as leader of the opposition. How many Liberal party members resigned their membership ? Seemed nobody cared enuf about him or his waffle to resign..




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Old 10th Oct 2015, 07:59
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@Worrals,

Thanks for the advice.
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Old 10th Oct 2015, 11:25
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Old 10th Oct 2015, 11:37
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Karl Stefanovic has never made any secret of his pro ALP stand, his admiration for both Rudd and Gillard and his intense dislike of anything LNP.


(and the source for that is; just watch the Today programme a few times.).
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Old 10th Oct 2015, 11:45
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Yeah, Karl was one of the conspiracy ringleaders I reckon. Julie Bishop seems like a loyal, upstanding deputy leader though.

Meanwhile, the man on the grassy knoll has sequestered American help..

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Old 10th Oct 2015, 12:47
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Dunno about the rest of you, but the more I see, read and hear various People attempts to continue to stick the knife into Tony Abbott makes me think that he was and still is a threat to Labor and their ideologies!

Quite possibly also just Labor's hatred of anything that does not agree with their agendum?
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Old 10th Oct 2015, 13:07
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Have to agree Pinky. They got their wet dream. He is gone. But still the continue to stick the knife in. For the life of me, I can't work out why. My super lefty, left. Lefty, tree hugging sister dropped in last night. And she started on Abbott. Bad, bad, bad. I said to her, what is your problem? He has gone, you got your whish
She couldn't answer the question, as normal just ranted and raved, basically saying she knows all, I know nothing.

I think they are scared. Scared that they got what they wanted, but nothing's changed. The words may have softened, but policy is basically the same.

And as far as asking her to explain the execution in Sydney, that's when she stormed out.

If the narrative does not fit the left's idea of utopia, they have no answer, but to yell and scream and abuse.
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Old 10th Oct 2015, 13:18
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What exactly do you think 'Lefties' are afraid of in regards to Tony Abbott? He's politically dead. He's a backbencher who will be lucky to survive preselection at the next election, let alone hold his seat if he does. Shades of Howard.

Could it posibly be that the continued Abbott bagging simply happens in order to put a counterweight to those on the right who can't let him go? Turnbull is the leader of the Liberal Party, yet the far right are disgusted because of it. They want hard line Tony back.

Guess what. It aint gonna happen. The man was a clusterfk of the highest order...
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Old 10th Oct 2015, 15:00
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No Hempy. I did not say that. I said the left got what they wanted. I am, at the moment, happy with Malcom. What I can't understand is the constant hatred from the left against Tony. He seems to me to be a nice family man. What is the left's problem with him? He has gone, but still the gate continues.
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Old 10th Oct 2015, 20:55
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Reportedly, the NSW State Liberal Conference gave Abbott a standing ovation while offering none to Turnbull, who was also heckled and booed.

Not everyone, it seems, agrees with Hempy's world view.
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Old 10th Oct 2015, 21:02
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Rearrange the deck chairs and everyone is happy
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Old 10th Oct 2015, 22:06
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I diagree Eddie. Your 'deck chairs' analogy suggests that the Titanic will still sink, just with a different Captain at the helm. In Australian politics at the moment there is a dearth of 'leadership'. Shorten couldn't lead a mob of shearers to a pub, and Abbott was no different. Turnbull has support, hopefully he can steer the ship away from the iceberg.
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Old 10th Oct 2015, 22:32
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Maybe not quite the correct analogy, but there has been no change of direction; so full steam ahead.
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Old 10th Oct 2015, 22:33
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For what it's worth, you lot were still blaming Rudd and Gillard for making your beer warm right up to the day Abbott was axed.

A bit hypocritical to now be going on about "the lefties" and Abbott. Arguably he has managed to set the country back even in his short reign, most of us are angry or disappointed with what he achieved (or didn't achieve) and the opportunities lost - not just the loonies.
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Old 10th Oct 2015, 22:49
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chuboy, what Tony Abbott achieved (if that's maybe not quite the right word) was to alienate the Left (almost to the point of apoplexy, I might add) by being too radically Right - while simultaneously alienating the Right for not being as far Right as they thought he should be.

If you base that performance on the old adage that if, as an arbitrator, both sides think you're favouring the other side, you're probably getting it just about right, maybe Tony Abbott wasn't quite as bad as many insist he was/is.
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Old 11th Oct 2015, 01:18
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In what way has Abbott set the country back?
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Old 11th Oct 2015, 01:41
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Slight change of topic. Reports elsewhere are suggesting that the 47 year old who died in Lakemba overnight after suffering a serious neck injury might have been an attempted beheading.

What was that old Janga Janga song? "This is Aust... ra... li.. a".
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Old 11th Oct 2015, 03:21
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'Beheaded' with a beer bottle??

By 'Reports elsewhere' I guess you mean The Make Believe Times?
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