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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 01:10
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Since he's probably too young to have held a job, this will doubtlessly be labelled by the EhBC and Fauxfacts as just another case of "work experience place violence".
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 04:53
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I know that there are some here who will find fault with this report and its contents. I don't know what more the PM or Shorten could have done. Abbott's response would have been totally different but he wasn't one for inclusiveness. Division was the name of his game.


Parramatta shooting: Malcolm Turnbull condemns 'cold-blooded murder'
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 05:10
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Ken - be fair, if Abbott had still been PM the SMH would probably not have reported any speech Abbott made on the subject, Shorten yes, even SHY, but not Abbott.
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 06:52
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Just a question. Where does a 15 year old get a hand gun from?
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 07:16
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Para,

I am fair. I read the SMH each day. As best I could opine, the Herald never failed to report on Abbott's speeches, activities, and stunts. The Age probably took most of the SMH copy, and vv. The more partisan stuff was pushed out by Murdoch's tabloids but I'm not sure The Australian was not biassed in favour of Abbott.

'can the Hawks!! Looking good at the moment....
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 08:44
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Ken
You must have a different interpretation than I to the use of the word "partisan".

I saw much more balance of competing views in Murdoch press than in Fairfax. Or is there only one true view of the world and it is "progressive"?

"believe half of what you see and none of what you read" springs to mind.
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 13:12
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Well this must be true. The ABC is reporting that the sister of the 15 year old isalmic murderer, left Australia on Thursday to go to Turkey. Guess where she is off to then?

And I bet the family have lived of welfare since they got here. Come to our country, enjoy the benefits, and then kill us.

And Hempy says it's all OK.
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 14:21
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I'm still trying to reconcile the official line that "he acted alone" with the idea that a 15 year old is capable of self-radicalising, developing a plan to kill a stranger and manufacturing a pistol and ammunition.

Who dreams up these official lines anyway?
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 14:59
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Originally Posted by SOPS
And I bet the family have lived of welfare since they got here. Come to our country, enjoy the benefits, and then kill us.

And Hempy says it's all OK.
Care to supply a direct quote to back that last bit up, or are you just making things up so can engage in a little schoolyard worthy ad-hominem?

p.s I know the answer already. And yet you are happy to call the media liars for 'false reporting' of your beloved yet idiotic Tone.

You 'sir' are a hypocrite of the highest (or lowest) order.

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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 15:35
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Come to our country, enjoy the benefits, and then kill us.
Come to our country - He was born in Iran..... check

enjoy the benefits - NSW taxpayer funded education made available.....check

and then kill us - one NSW Police civilian murdered.....check

I believe SOPS has a valid point.
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 20:06
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It would appear the boy acted on the ISIS directive, question is who procured the gun and supported him.

The act was carried out to instill fear and trepidation in our community - Be wary but not frightened I say
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 20:22
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I heard on the radio (ABC) news that investigating Police are now regarding the occurrence as an "Act of Terrorism".
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 20:23
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Initial reports, not always reliable, said that the police employee who was the first to be killed seemed to have been deliberately targeted by the 15 year old. The dead man had an attractive young daughter. Could the whole sorry mess have been set off because Dad refused the 15 year old permission to to see the daughter? Most fathers, particularly High achieving Asians, would not be thrilled to have a religious nutter paying attention to their teenage daughter. Include me in that category.
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 20:43
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Considering both of the guys kids were adults in thier 20s, I'd say highly unlikely.

Paint it how you want, this was simply another incident from the religion of peace.

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Old 4th Oct 2015, 04:04
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So, as I said last night, the sister has gone to Syria, the 15 year old radical Muslim killed an innocent man while dressed in black robes shouting Allah Allah,
and the left continue to tell us it's all ok.

I must say, Sarah has been very quite lately.
Sydney's Parramatta shooting gunman identified as Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar | Daily Mail Online
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Old 4th Oct 2015, 05:00
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Enough!

Mr Prime Minister you are very, very wrong.

It is the duty of every Muslim to convert non-believers i.e. we the Infidels, to the Islamic faith; if we cannot be converted then we are to be eliminated.
Muslims have no intention to assimilate with us... that would be in direct contravention of their Islamic faith!

We do not need any more conversations, understandings, appeasement, workings together, ad nauseam; this is the 4th or 5th time this has happened where each time we have weakly said we need to work together, a holistic approach.

What is needed for the Muslim community to clearly understand this will not be tolerated.

The only conversation needed, needed to be heard, is the Muslim people loudly, clearly telling the Imanís, those of their faith who are not prepared to accept our way of life to change their ways or immediately leave!

We grant others the privilege to visit or migrate to our country, having done this we give permission for them to do so both of which is granted upon the understanding they shall understand, obey our laws; understand, obey, respect our way of life; if they are not prepared to do this fully then flights, which they should be on, leave hourly!

We have our Servicemen and women, our police, firemen or anyone in uniform told not to wear this uniform off duty for fear of attack; the very people whose uniform displays the symbol of law and order, the peace, freedoms we enjoy; this is not only appalling, objectionable, it is abhorrent a direct appeasement, weakness and surrender!

Your first and foremost duty is the protection of Australia, Australian citizens not to kowtow, weakly appease those who would destroy our lifestyle; we demand you act to protect Australia and Australians first.
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Old 4th Oct 2015, 05:38
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Very well said, DK.

And the first thing up for discussion should be banning the burka in public, then we will go from there.
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Old 4th Oct 2015, 05:43
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What is needed for the Muslim community to clearly understand this will not be tolerated.
DK, as an observer of Australian politics over the last decade or more, I think it would be fair to say that any Muslim coming here to live or to visit would be in left in absolutely no doubt that such behaviour will be tolerated - and by some, (incredibly, the feminists and the leftists, who seem to see the Islamization of this country as a way to undermine mainstream conservative values), positively encouraged.
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Old 4th Oct 2015, 05:57
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DK,
You're saying what a lot of people thinking at the moment.
While I don't have the answers, I do hope commonsense and wisdom, rather than emotion, will prevail.


Wiley,
While I don't have much time for the views of the 'ratbag right' as repetitively expressed on here, your post is definitely food for thought.
The feminist movement is like a runaway train at the present. They smell power beyond their wildest dreams.
A bit like a dog chasing a car, though... If he caught it, he wouldn't know what to do with it.
As for the loony left...

Take notice, Malcolm.
As ever, ye reap what ye sow.
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Old 4th Oct 2015, 07:25
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Interesting to see both articles and more than one letter to the editor on the Weekend Australian celebrating the Liberal Party's move to the Left.

This puts many who post here quite firmly out in the cold and confirms that people with such opinions are considered excess to requirements in the Liberal Party.

The Mark Textors of the Liberal Party back rooms have obviously done their sums and come to the conclusion that they can do without the right wing conservative vote.
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