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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 21st Sep 2015, 06:39
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"I am sure that I just read Denmark is producing 143 % of its power through renewables."
well, ain't that grand!

143% of the most expensive power that money can buy! how useful is that?!

The capital cost of the windmill plus very high maintenance costs, a poor serviceability record for the windmills, plus they only work for about 30% of the time anyway! What a bargain!

I'm sure the Australian armed forces are thrilled to bits with their new defence minister, just shows the contempt the new lawyer/banker PM holds the military in.
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Old 21st Sep 2015, 06:50
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Opinions please:-

Does this new ministry represent a partial re-arrangement of the deck-chairs on the "TItanic", or is it a cabinet with potential which may actually be realised?

Are the women in it present on merit, or is there a sense of "tokenism" in some of the appointments?

Is the cabinet "leaning to the left or the right" - or is it actually sitting straight on its legs?

How "well-sealed" is this new ministry (i.e. how long before it starts leaking?).

Having despaired of the politicians at every level in this country, I'm interested to see what pundits and those who take a genuine interest in the turd-filled pool that constitutes Australian federal politics really think of the latest ministerial appointments.
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Old 21st Sep 2015, 12:54
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Come on Para, you being a keen prepper you must have a few solar panels on your bomb shelter
Malcolm on ABC tonight, if he walks the walk like he talks the talk then he probably is the best political option that we have at the moment, even with the horrid Brough, Cash and O'Dwyer's in tow. Can't believe Dutton is still there, didn't he resign by texting?
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Old 21st Sep 2015, 14:46
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Opinions? Far Right Wing is yesterday's news. Take it or f*ck of to somewhere else.

I've always been Centralist. Thank god you hard-liners have been shown your true place.

Hardliners vote for the 'minorities' next election. Please. They'll remain a minority.

Thanks Tony, you're ineptitude has re-aligned the electorate.
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Old 21st Sep 2015, 15:08
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Hempy, go suck on a chardy. The polls in the next few months are going to make the left vomit. I was an Abbott man, but the new PM is going to eat Shorten for breakfast.

I must admit, I am worried what will happen when the next boat load of counrty shoppers arrive.
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Old 21st Sep 2015, 15:24
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Dont worry soppy, you can share Para's shelter when the next boat load arrive. I thought that last bloke stopped all that assylum seeker stuff, maybe the aussie dollar is so low now the people smugglers wont accept the cash off the Navy anymore!
sad report from US scientists regarding climate change, Our Mal will show his true colours soon me thinks.. ETS mk 2 on its way
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Old 21st Sep 2015, 23:38
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Had to chuckle last night when Paul Murray labelled Wyatt Roy as "the work experience kid" when he sledged the supposed "fact" that everyone in the new Cabinet got there through merit.

Re the next boat: my guess would be that there'll be a Western media crew on board with a satellite link to keep the whole world informed of the Royal Australian Navy's (or Border Protection's) "inhumanity" as they carefully arrange photogenic pre-pubescent females or even toddlers in jump suits in the foreground as the boat is turned back. SHY might even be on board.

He's a hint for the Force Commander: make sure all the interception boats are equipped with very powerful satellite transmission blocking kit, or our new humanitarian PM will fold like a pack of cards when that footage hits the world's TV screens.

Meanwhile an out of breath Tony Abbott emerging from the surf goes about as close to calling Scott Morrison an outright liar as it gets. Hadley will be frothing at the mouth over that this morning. An ego as big as his does not like to feel used, and Morrison played him like a well-hooked trout in two interviews, one immediately before the coup and another after, where even the blue rinse set ladies who love 2GB could see he was lying in his teeth.
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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 01:04
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Yes Ethel, solar panels on the roof. Last summers electricity bills, covering six months, $75.00 and $7.25! And that is here in Victoria. No preppeing here, Gippsland is unlikely to attract too many illegals, most work available is hard graft on farms, commision housing quite limited.


Given the current poll numbers, (provided the voting method for the senate is sorted), double disolution very soon I would have thought.
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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 06:03
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The only way Labor can have a chance at the next election is if they jettison Shorten, which would ordinarily be fine except for how difficult that will now be given the new process that has been introduced. And with it, will come bloodletting and back grounding which will take up a fair amount of time and the medias attention. When you are a union hack solicitor up against someone who still has all the talent and prowess of a great barrister you begin to look very stupid, very quickly even when you should be winning. Lets face it, last week in question time they had all the ammo in the world and all Turnbull did for the entire hour was deflect every question artfully and make the opposition look like dolts. They had their best chance to apply the blowtorch and they stuffed it.
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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 07:05
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Dutch News...

via Ethel the Aardvark:
Google Denmark renewable energy
Not bad for a days worth of wind!
Oh, Dear... the gift that keeps on giving..

"...Former ABN Amro chief executive Rijkman Groenink is among a group of senior banking officials who have been handed back millions of euros by the tax office after investing in sustainable energy...

...The turbine was sold as an investment object to a group of 21 bankers and financial specialists as a way of cutting their income tax bill, the Volkskrant says. The turbine was also partly funded through government subsidies..."


banker boy turnbull's mates profiteering gets help from 'government' subsidies.

...and who funds the government..


'Bankers earn back millions in tax by investing in wind power' - DutchNews.nl







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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 08:39
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Watched Bill Shorty on Q & A last night. thought he came across very well
(not one snarl) and unusually answered questions about the TURC.
very professionally dismissed a lady with Abbott wind turbine disease. (poor thing)
wot with Brough making headlines for the wrong reasons maybe it will be closer than I thought!!
don't worry Bingle, you can invest your millions in wind whenever you want
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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 09:17
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The Gift...

Quote:via Ethel the Aardvark:
Google Denmark renewable energy
Not bad for a days worth of wind!
OH, DEAR!...

Not only do the Dutch have record wind power generation, and the record for the worlds highest power prices, they have just pulled off a record for COAL consumption.. RAOTFL

"Dutch power stations used a record amount of coal in the past five months, despite government..." Incompetence... Stupidity... Farce.......

Dutch power stations use record volumes of coal - DutchNews.nl







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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 09:41
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last time I looked at the map Denmark was a different country to Dutchland
but it is a wonderful thing that some countries invest in renewables, only way to create more innovation and cheaper products
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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 09:47
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Denmark and Holland are the same country? :facepalm:

p.s what's RAOTFL?

p.p.s SOPS, I prefer a good Cab Sav or Shiraz. Don't mind a latte occasionally either, but I generally order a flat white..

You?
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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 10:09
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Suggested research: Europe's connected power grid..

it is a wonderful thing that some countries invest in renewables, only way to create more innovation and cheaper products
Except it dont, do it..

The only 'profitable' innovation we've seen out of wind power is from the bankers and their 'products'.

Then there's China... where most of the wind power pollution ends up..







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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 10:39
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Always wondered why those Denmarkians wear clogs, ride around on bikes and eat copious amounts of Edam!!

I see mal brough has a bit of explaining to do
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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 11:09
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Our mate Binghi is the suppository of all wisdom
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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 11:33
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Two gifts from one...

Oh, Dear, yet again...

To understand just how interconnected Europe's wind power scam is try a search of Dong energy...

"...Dong Energy has built more offshore wind farms than any other company worldwide. We have built more than one third of the total offshore wind capacity in the market. This capacity is equivalent to an ability to supply five million Europeans with clean electricity. By 2020, we aim to have quadrupled our installed capacity compared with 2012. The installed capacity in 2020 is equivalent to the annual electricity consumption of 16 million Europeans..." (1)



Of course we find the carbon trading scam masters in the mix...

"...Last year about a fifth of DONG’s shares were sold to Goldman Sachs for 8 billion kroner, which continues to cause public outcry. The bank’s acquisition was based on a valuation of 31.5 billion kroner so it could stand to gain significantly from an IPO..." (2)



And who in Australia is pushing the carbon trading scam, and owes goldman sachs BIGTIME...

"...Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull looks set to emerge from his long court case over HIH Insurance with his former employer, the Goldman Sachs merchant bank, making a confidential settlement on his behalf..." (3)



(1) http://www.dongenergy.com/en/busines...ies/wind-power
(2) DONG Energy IPO could be the biggest in Denmark?s history | The Post
(3) Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian







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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 11:56
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Who are you going to vote for next election Bingi? Libs (the 'bankers mates' (like things have changed ))? ALP? Greens?


Looks like your are disenfranchised (aka on your own planet) old chap. A 'minority group'. Oops. Let's hope we don't start treating hard line right-wingers like we do Muslims, you might need asylum...Hope they let you in..
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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 12:31
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Given the change of Liberal leadership doesn't change the Senate, I get the impression a double-dissolution election can't be far away.

Turnbull needs a compliant Senate before he can get his own agenda through. A carbon-tax, an Australian republic (with President Turnbull) and all the rest of his agenda has to have a mandate, and the only way he can get it and see it through is with a double-dissolution which he must win and also gain a Senate which will pass the bills. (I'll bet his wife and his family trust has invested heavily in carbon trading futures and renewable energy shares...everything he is doing is all about making Turnbull the richest and most powerful man in Australia, and nothing else.)

So, if you haven't made your decision as to which party you can bring yourself to support at the next Federal election, better start making up your minds quickly. Choose the lesser of the two evils if you must, and remember that no matter who you vote for, it really doesn't matter any more. Your choice now is "Labor or Labor Lite".

Enjoy the feeling of participating in the democratic process when you cast your vote...just like peeing in your trousers, it'll give you a warm feeling - for a little while.
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