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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 23rd Aug 2015, 06:41
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Ethel's post shows how desperate the ALP are to promote all things Liberal as bad, bad, bad.

I find it shocking that that a man that has been fighting for his country Is being treated by the left in this way.
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 06:46
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Ethel, do you live your life in the gutter? He was not there in person at the time, orbiting overhead in a helicopter in fact, and it was he who reported the incident for investigation.
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 07:11
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Just pointing out that if you potentially have a 10% swing against your party, having a candidate that has to defend himself on such subjects may not be the best option, maybe someone who has lived there or even born in WA might be advantageous?
You can take a deep breath and clean up your froth now!
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 07:30
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maybe someone who has lived there or even born in WA might be advantageous
If the candidate spent some time in SF I imagine he did live in WA for a time. I doubt the voting public in Canning are going to look at his service record as any sort of negative.
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 08:12
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Originally Posted by SOPS
Ethel's post shows how desperate the ALP are to promote all things Liberal as bad, bad, bad.
Whilst I'm not defending Ethel, people in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones....
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 08:32
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they seem to wield an inordinate amount of power
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As do the Greens and the cross benchers. Totally out of all proportion to the number of people they are supposed to represent.
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 08:35
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I suspect the Libs are absolutely loving the publicity their candidate for Canning is getting in response to The Age front page.

What Labor (through their proxies, the Fairfax media) have attempted with the ex-SAS captain worked wonderfully well for Labor frontbencher Chris Bowen when they spread some highly questionable allegations about an ex-policemen who was standing for the Libs against him. I'm not sure it will work for them this time.

There will definitely be a large swing against the Libs - that's the nature of the beast at any by-election that occurs mid-term for any government. The big question is, how big? Labor will declare victory and demand Tony Abbott stand down whichever way Canning goes.

The only thing unusual about that is that there are quite a few Liberals wishing he would too. Just so long as they don't replace him with Malcolm Turnbull.
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 08:41
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But Malcolm's been waiting so patiently for so long..
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 11:46
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The Victorian education minister has just banned the teaching of religion in state schools.
And so they should too.

while no such ban is applied to Islamic schools
And I imagine no such ban is applied to Jewish, Catholic, or Anglican schools.
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 13:39
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Have you heard the Word of God today?
No?
Then we must all be told about it - particularly the kiddies.
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 13:46
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Just watching 60 minutes, with some idiot 'Australian ' who went to Syria. He does not even have an a Australian accent. Either he has been here for a short time, which the programme basically proved incorrect, or he has been bought up in a non intergrated, 'slum'.

He went, he left, sorry, he can't come back.
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Old 23rd Aug 2015, 23:46
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And I am sure Ethel will be able to defend this.

Labor frontbencher Tony Burke racks up $2.2m travel bill | Daily Mail Online
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Old 24th Aug 2015, 00:11
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maybe someone who has lived there or even born in WA might be advantageous?
Unfortunately, when you work for defence you have no choice where you live, in my day a change to a different state every two years was common. Perhaps you're suggesting he should stand in Afghanistan, he resided there for long enough. As for the frothing, send your address and I'll be around for lessons.
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Old 24th Aug 2015, 01:08
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pretty simple really, if Burke can justify his expenditure then so be it, if he cant then he should pay it back and resign.
Haste was born in Victoria, I would not think that would be a plus point for parochial sandgropers. he has not lived in Canning however he is moving there in a week or so. involved in an on going army affair where a soldier cut off a Taliban's hand.
Labor has a candidate who was born there and has parents live in Canning.
No idea who is the better candidate but on paper I would say maybe not the Lib one. please froth as much as you like but don't send piccys
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Old 24th Aug 2015, 03:27
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Good to know that you, Ethel, are not one of us "parochial sandgropers" who will actually be the ones deciding who will represent us in Canning.

My husband is also former SF and was born in Victoria, according to Ethel's logic he shouldn't be allowed to vote in this bi-election either. Don Randall was a friend of ours, a good man who moved mountains for the people in his electorate and is sorely missed. That is why all this crap is even more distasteful to us ahem "parochial sandgropers" who know he will be a very hard act to follow.

you and your snide comments.
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Old 24th Aug 2015, 03:39
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Well said, Clare.
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Old 24th Aug 2015, 05:00
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I think you will find all states are parochial be it footy, cricket and even Politics. If you can not see that some voters would prefer a local born Canning candidate to someone who probably has only travelled through Canning on his way to Swanbourne barracks then good luck at the by election.
No disrespect to Haste, I am sure he would of loved to live in Canning before but those are the circumstances,

Hats off to Don Randall, its obvious from his majority he was a liked man.
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Old 24th Aug 2015, 06:36
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Don didn't live in Canning all his life either, Ethel. He was originally from Merredin.

I would have voted for Don whatever party he was in because he actually did the job he was elected to do and did it well.

That's what the next person has to prove they can come close to, not whether they take their orders from tweedledum or tweedledee in Canberra.

If only there was a decent independent candidate out there.
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Old 24th Aug 2015, 06:56
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Ethel, Ethel, Ethel... When I see the English language murdered like that, I have to remind myself that's it's not your fault. You are the product of our cutting edge educayshun system championed by Julia Gillard and other 'progressives' before her.

Mr Hastie, from what little I've heard him say publically since the matter of the post mortem hands removal in Afghanistan, seems to have a quality much admired - but all too infrequently seen - in officers, (particularly senior officers, which he was not), and that is downward loyalty to the men serving under him.

In my experience, (admittedly quite some years ago now), displaying a trait like that, it's probably a good thing he has left the ADF, for with trait - which would be an anchor around his ankle as he strived for star rank - he would be highly unlikely to get beyond Colonel.

Ethel's quite right about the attitude of many Sandgropers towards anyone from 'the Eastern States'. However, I suspect that Federal politics will override that for many. Those who want to punish the Libs for the shortcomings of Tony Abbott and his government would vote for anyone the Opposition puts up, no matter where he or she comes from. Those who are appalled by what amounts to nothing short of Mafiaso behaviour by those who really run the Labor Party, the Union movement, will likewise swallow their parochialism and vote for the other Party despite its quite obvious shortcomings.

As I said in an earlier post, THE question is, not that many will quite obviously take option (a), but will it be enough to see the Libs lose the seat? My guess is that it will be a very close run, and I don't for one moment think that the Labor Party and other, smaller anti-Coalition Parties will not revert to the tactics we saw used in Indi against Sophie Mirabella. Tactics that saw he lose the seat by a very, very narrow margin, quite possibly fewer votes than the number of very questionable 'newcomer' voters who 'blew in' to the electorate immediately before the election. Perhaps.

I for one think that this by-election will see Tony Abbott wishing that he'd done what I and others said here and elsewhere - that he sorted out and fixed the hopelessly flawed electoral system, where questionable and multiple voting is far too easy, immediately after winning government in 2013.
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Old 24th Aug 2015, 07:00
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And unfortunately, if it is s bad reult for thr Libs, we will see another leadership challenge for sure.
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