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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 2nd Jul 2015, 10:54
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A very good argument Worrals, and of course in principle I agree with you.

But how are you going to get those Middle Eastern types now living here in Australia to agree to accept our Laws and ways?

The above is a genuine question as I have absolutely NFI how we could do it!

My personal opinion is until we do find such a way, and those abovementioned types accept the Western/Aussie way that we meet any force from them with greater overwhelming force!

Interpret that how you wish, anyone!

ah suppose with out them lawyers it'd be pistols at 20 paces. One body, one winner...
I must sadly admit to times where I think that the above would be a better idea!

But then again, I`m a good shot with a pistol, if I may say so.
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Old 2nd Jul 2015, 11:00
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As Worrals says, the words 'accused' and 'alleged' are, at this stage, a big part of the story. You can't pick and choose who gets 'fair' and who doesn't based on race, creed, religion, orientation etc. Not in this country...unless you want to lower yourselves to their standards.

He'll have his day in court, and if '12 men good and true' find him guilty, he wont be spending Ramadan in a Mosque any time soon. Until then though, trial by PPRuNe doesn't count...(I'd be doing 20+ hard labour for sure).
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Old 2nd Jul 2015, 11:32
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Ok, never let it be said that I live on the far right all the time, I accept Worrals thoughts, and tend to agree.....with one however....they can't have it both ways, the accept our laws and way of life, or they don't. If they don't, they leave.
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Old 2nd Jul 2015, 12:07
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Police have raided the offices of Labor parliamentarian Noreen Hay, (the same Noreen Hay who starred in the ICAC inquiry into Woolongong Council some years ago). It would seem that Ms Hay might owe her election, which she won by a very few votes, in part to a largish number of people who moved into the electorate immediately before the election - and every one of them moved to the same address, a house that is owned to one of Ms Hay's supporters.

Shades of Sophie Mirabella's narrow loss in the Victorian electorate of Indi.

Surely this, if true, (the allegations have not been proven yet), should be sufficient evidence that electoral reform is overdue and must be introduced immediately - certainly before the introduction of same sex marriage. Photo ID at the very least, but also an electronic voter's register and a revocation of the change that Bob Hawke introduced allowing voters to vote in any booth - all these must be introduced before the 2016 election. Any Party that resists these changes is admitting that it is paerty to electoral fraud.
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Old 2nd Jul 2015, 12:23
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SOPS,
"If they don't, they leave."

Erm, what are the chances of that happening, do you think?
You don't seem to realise that God (Allah) is on their side and that they will ultimately prevail. Got it?
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Old 2nd Jul 2015, 13:22
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electoral reform is overdue
So is reform of the Labor Party. It must stop being a means to personal advancement and return to being a vehicle for delivering social justice as it once was.
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Old 2nd Jul 2015, 16:09
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"The Arabs who have moved here cannot believe that our legal system bends over to accommodate them"

I dont live in oz anymore but could someone give several examples of how the oz legal system "bends to accomodate" Arab folk?

Can Arabs speed down freeways without triggering the flashing of blue lights? Can they overstay a parking meter without a ticket? Maybe they can commit murder?

What exactly is happening in oz to make you insecure folk think that 1% of the population is going to change the legal system for the remaining 99% of uninformed boguns?
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Old 2nd Jul 2015, 20:45
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What exactly is happening in oz to make you insecure folk think that 1% of the population is going to change the legal system for the remaining 99% of uninformed boguns?
Does something tell you otherwise?
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Old 2nd Jul 2015, 20:56
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Fair enough, then he probably ran it and wore the risk.
Worrals, the apportion of costs have yet to be considered by the courts. Given the courts determination that it was primarily the headline and advertising banner that defamed Hockey rather than the text of any articles by the media involved, Hockey could bear some of the costs and may not receive the full benefit of the damages awarded him.
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Old 2nd Jul 2015, 21:05
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I dont live in oz anymore but could someone give several examples of how the oz legal system "bends to accomodate" Arab folk?
oicur12.again, I suggest that the recent instance of Zaky Mallah's statements on the ABC program Q&A are an example of at least the accommodation of a large proportion of the public of an 'Arab's un-politically correct opinions.

If a mature white male, especially a conservative one, had made the same comments on Q&A and in the associated tweets, he would have been pilloried by that same proportion of the population. That's not the same as being accommodated by the legal system, but Mallah's appearance on the program and the ABC's defence of it is certainly indicative of a level of accommodation offered by society.
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Old 2nd Jul 2015, 22:30
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Oicur12, one example that springs to mind is mothers and other family members in court screaming abuse and threats at the magistrate and witnesses when their son is sentenced. If an Anglo did that, she'd be charged with contempt. Ladies wearing a veil are not - our courts make allowances for 'cultural differences'.

Also Carlita Matthews, after video evidence proved she has perjured herself, got off because - because the woman who delivered the complaint to the police station was wearing full face cover - it could not be proven to have been Ms Matthews. Even though she had spoken on TV accusing the policeman of tearing off her veil.

After the Cronulla riots, convoys of BMWs came into beach suburbs and burned out cars. I did not hear of one arrest over that, but I'm sure there would have been hundred of traffic cameras showing the number plates of the cars in those convoys.
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Old 2nd Jul 2015, 23:07
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It looks as though the coming ALP conference is not going to be about policy, but about the maintainance of union power within the ALP.

With union membership at around 17% of the workforce, the ALP Left is demanding that 50% of delegates at the ALP national conference and in state ALP bodies be union appointees, with the conference to take place yearly instead of triennially. Unions would also have a 50% vote for Senate candidates, equal to the combined vote of MPs and the rank and file.

In other words, unless opposition to a union proposition was unanimous in the ALP's national and state forms, the union would prevail.

In a nice Orwellian touch, the AMWU which is sponsoring the move says that its intention is to 'democratise the ALP and to ensure that the critical voice of unions is heard.'
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Old 3rd Jul 2015, 04:13
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As much as I like Tony and W, but taking the p!ss is very Australian.

All he needed was a victory banner behind him in one of the photo's
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Old 3rd Jul 2015, 07:12
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If he flew on board in a 2 seater, it would have been worth the 'tea and bikkies' for the jock to make him hurl , or at least 'go to sleep' for a few seconds. Tool
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Old 3rd Jul 2015, 07:52
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"Tool"....that's a good description for some including some on this blog.
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Old 3rd Jul 2015, 07:57
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Saltie ....I was in Brighton Le Sands shortly after the Cronulla troubles and saw a some of the problems caused by the "BMW" drivers. I took refuge inside the RSL there.Didn't read anything about it in the MSM and I've never seen any documentary on SBS so perhaps it was all a dream.
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Old 3rd Jul 2015, 09:05
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Yes, it's quite amazing the way the whole MSM self-censored over the Lebbo's reaction to the original flare up, isn't it? We never saw a mention of the car burnings - and neither did we see any mention of what set off the Aussie Bogans. It was all raaaascist Boga Aussies. And nothing else.

I saw first hand the bloody packs of Lebbo's 'playing soccer' on the beach years earlier - terrorising any young woman they could and daring any Lone Aussie male to react.
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Old 3rd Jul 2015, 11:35
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Having worked with Lebs in the ME, they have a very different ( strange ) attitude. They are convinced that all women find them irresistible. And those that don't can be "convinced".

If I tried a quarter of the stuff I saw them try and pull off, I would have been up on sexual harassment charges so quick, I would not have known what had hit me.

But the Lebs seemed to be able to get away with it, and cause mayhem and chaos amongst the female crew.
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Old 3rd Jul 2015, 12:31
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Back in the early 90s, we had a Lebanese steward in my airline, a really good looking bloke (no jokes please, he really was). He was running three Australian female cabin crew at the same time - and all three knew about the other two, but each and every one of them "knew" that "she" was "the one" and that the other two "meant nothing to him".

He was up on the flight deck having a break once on a long night flight when he said to something I've repeated many, many times - and to absolutely no avail if it was to Australian (or other Western) female. He said: "Ahh, Aussie girls, I love 'em; it's like clubbing baby seals." (I kid you not. This is not something I heard of second hand. I heard those said word myself.)

Whenever I'd tell that tale to some star-struck (almost always new to the Middle East) Aussie girl, she would nod wisely and assure me that her man was different.

This was so widespread that we had a acronym to cover it: "MMID", for "My Mohammed Is Different". Almost without exception, within 12 months, you'd run across the same girl, no longer star struck after she's been replaced by "fresh meat" (the Lebbo boys' term for a new intake of trainee females from the West, fifty or more of whom who arrived almost monthly), who would then admit that THAT particular Mohammed had turned out not to be different. But it was amazing how often they'd latch on to another Mohammed who they'd convince themselves would this time be different.

I had to give the Lebbos their due - they could court a woman like few men from the West could - or would. But for most of them, it was the thrill of the chase. After they'd bedded the girl, they'd quickly move on to the next conquest - unless they'd managed to get the girl to take out a large loan to set up a business for them - which had to be only in the male's name in Dubai - or buy a car for them.

Then they'd stick around for a while - but not always. I knew one girl who married her Mohammed, took out a huge loan to set up his business and then, after she got sick of him bonking all her (supposedly close) friends, ditched him, but lost the car she's bought him (that was registered in his name) and had to pay out another very large business loan as well herself, which he refused to acknowledge. She said it was worth it just be rid of him. But she was locked in to Dubai for years until she could pay off the two loans. (Again, not a second hand story - I knew this girl well and she told me all the details herself.)

I also must stress that most of these guys were a very different kettle of fish to the vast majority of Lebbos we see out here.
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Old 4th Jul 2015, 11:59
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Lots of the talking heads on TV seem to assume if the SSM question goes to a plebiscite, it will be a shoo-in for the Yes vote. I' not so sure.

There are a lot of first generation Australians here now from very conservative cultures who I think will vote No. Then again, I might be wrong.
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