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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 17th Oct 2013, 15:38
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Please can someone make these people irrevellent. As I have said before, I have a sister that is so left of Green, it is unbelievable the stuff she comes out with. But she is 50, single, and sips lattes and loves to tell me how to bring up my kids, how my industry kills Polar Bears, (until she needs to fly to the next conference on the fate of the yellow toe tree frog) and that every boat should be welcomed with open arms.

These people need to be stopped in their tracks somehow. Except for voting them out of existence, I'm not sure how to do it .
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 17:04
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I can't understand why these zealots can't disagree on an intellectual level. If they don't like your ideas, they don't like you, at all, and they make it quite plain. Ad hominem, right off the bat.
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 17:10
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Because if you discuss, argue or whatever with them, their argument falls apart.

Being a hunter / shooter, I have often discussed this with people who are against it, especially Greenies. Generally, about 5 questions shoot them down.

1. How many trees have you planted, nest boxes for birds have you put up or how many intorduced verminthat eats our native fauna and flora have you removed from the landscape ? The answer in 99% of cases is Zero.

2. Do you have wood in your house, either the frame or as ornaments that is not plantation grown ?
Most do, be it Meranti window frames or Red gum type ornaments.

And others.
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 17:18
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...such as 'Do you own a cat?'
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 17:21
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I used to.

Now I try to stay away from the subject of cats, most people hit the roof
when you tell them they are classed as vermin and shot on sight. even when
you explain the last one I got spent the previous 5 minutes eating a rare parrot.
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 17:27
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The household ones are fairly poor sport, though. And one must be careful not to shoot one's foot as they nuzzle the trouser leg.
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 20:31
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Wake up and what is one the front page of the Age.

So much for shutting up.

Dumped senator hints at Gillard's 'shocking' behaviour.

Former Labor senator Trish Crossin says she has a shocking story to tell about Julia Gillard's behaviour but will not provide the details now because it is not the right time for the Labor Party.

Dumped senator hints at Gillard's 'shocking' behaviour
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 21:19
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The three of them (Burke, Crossin and Roxon) sound like they've come straight out of Hating Alison Ashley. It all seems to be nails, eye-rolling hair-tossing at ten paces.
Less about personalities and more about politics would be greatly appreciated by at least one female Labor voter.

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Old 17th Oct 2013, 22:21
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Re what Brandt tweeted, someone should have tweeted back that
the bush fires are often significantly worse in the last two decades
because of Green Policies about burn offs and this has cost lives
of people as was proved during the Royal Commission.

So the Greens have blood on their hands !
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 22:24
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I see a whole heap of Motorcycle gang members are handing in colours
and closing clubs on the Gold Coast.

If only they had kept a low or lower profile, both in Qld and Vic,
they wouldn't attract the heat of the Police.

And now that the tax man is looking closely at all the club members,
I reckon you might find they get hit with a few bills.
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 22:37
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I watched ABC 24 this morning and Mr. Brandt was asked 5 times if his twatter about Tony Abbott was in poor taste. Five times he didn't answer the question but merely indulged in a party political broadcast on behalf of the Water Melon movement. As someone on this thread has said he should have been asked if the rise in the incidence of bush fires, houses being destroyed and lives lost could be as a result of more people living in high risk areas and local councils refusing to allow those very same residents from clearing around their house. Then again one shouldn't expect an A.B.C interviewer, with presumably a degree in journalism, having the nous to actually think outside the square as someone once said.
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 22:40
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I think I might make a phone call since he is local to me and give
his office an earful.
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 22:47
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In the interest of brand accuracy, the Greens should re-name themselves as "The ICLS" (pronounced "Icicles")

Inner City Latte Sippers.
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 22:54
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500N, ref the bikie gangs becoming a bit too visible of late: I think it has a lot to do with the increased Lebanese influence in the gangs in recent years. It's as important to them to be seen as 'The Man' as to actually being 'The Man'.

The Old Guard, (many of whom, let's face it, were not nice people), understood that keeping a low profile was a far more successful tactic if continued profitable business was the main aim.
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 22:56
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Given that the high fuel loads feeding these fires is a direct result of the heavy rains of the past two years, it would seem more appropriate to claim that the fires are a result of the carbon tax than any future action Abbott may take.
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 22:56
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Agree.

Re the old school keeping a low profile, I have a saying.

50% of a 1000 is better than 100% of nothing. Some in these clubs might
think of that if they want to survive.

The Police can only go so far unless in harassing unless they break the law, I reckon that now the Tax man has got involved and I reckon they will look at EVERY club, they will find there is not escape.

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Old 18th Oct 2013, 02:41
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Unhappy campers

Didn't take long

a long-time Coalition staffer warns morale around Government ranks is "abysmal" and "resentment is festering"
Senior Abbott staffers furious after being told they will not get pay rise - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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Old 18th Oct 2013, 02:45
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Have to hand it to Zanetti; sums it up perfectly


Love Tony housekeeping


ps>> do you really believe stories from the ALPBC?

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Old 18th Oct 2013, 03:11
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War in Australia (any Oz Politics)

On the Bandt comments: he has a right to say whatever he wants whenever he wants and I have a right to call him a fcuking inconsiderate moron. Sure, the climate is changing but it's not the primary cause of these fires and it's not the conversation to have whilst housing are burning, people's pets have been incinerated and people are missing. You just stay in your inner city cafe,drinking your weak soy latte and preach your bullsh!t from there about a world you clearly no little about.
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Old 18th Oct 2013, 03:14
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That, IMHO, is a sign of desperation of the media.

My question is, "is that all they can come up with as a story ?"
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