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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 3rd Sep 2013, 11:15
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I find myself wondering if we'll ever see Julia doing the perp walk in front of the cameras. I can't see it myself. I think, however guilty she may or may not be, some backroom deal will be done to save face (and the prestige of the office of Prime Minister), a bit like the Brits did with the Duke of Windsor in the early years of WW2 (where, for all intents and purposes, in 1940, as France was falling, he was an agent of the Germans).

I suspect, if the looooooong-delayed investigation by VicPol shows strong evidence that she was culpable and possibly guilty of fraud. (the witnessing of a document signed in Perth from Melbourne, [quite a feat] - and with a two week hiatus between the date on the document and when the signatory says he signed it being just one case in point), the System will come up with some sort of deal where she'll agree to retire on her HUGE pension and perks and keep her head well below the parapets.

Then again, these last six years have seen so many conventions tossed aside with nary a blink of an eye (by Labor), maybe we'll see a similar throwing out of convention by the conservatives. Only time will tell.
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Old 3rd Sep 2013, 12:32
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Tonight I had a phone call from someone called Kevin Rudd. I nearly dropped the damn phone in my efforts to slam it down.

It was a recording of course, but at a later meeting of locals, everyone present had received a similar call sometime during the day

I didn't think our seat was all that marginal. They must really be worried - with good reason I hope. I'm going to NZ next week for a few days. If Rudd and his motley group gets back, I'll probably stay there.
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Old 3rd Sep 2013, 14:24
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Funny you should say that, when I was in the UK last month I was thinking it might be time to move back if Labor win.

A Danish friend who has been here for decades and had a very successful shipwright business (now reduced to a one man band, like me) was saying the same thing today.

Interestingly I noticed they are "over" the PC bollox in the UK and people aren't afraid to speak out about the results of Blair's social engineering that they find abhorrent. Some also talk of Rudd with utter disgust seeing him as someone who "locks up refugees in concentration camps in PNG"

Personally I hope that the current lot of Labor MPs who don't end up in jail get shipped off to PNG with "no hope of resettlement" as well
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Old 3rd Sep 2013, 14:37
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Re AS seekers, it was interesting as they had the latest stats the other night.

4000 I think June
1500 July
50 August or something.

Either way, it has been a big drop. I SUSPECT that the figures have been doctored or Rudd would be making more of an issue of having stopped the boats.

I can't see why he wouldn't.
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Old 3rd Sep 2013, 15:06
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It looks as though Rudd may join the list of ALP fraudsters.

There's a dirty little document circulating at the moment giving dates, dollars and addresses of three of Rudd and Rein's residential real estate deals.

The first one, at 62 Philip St, Hawthorne Qld, if the document is correct, involved a Queensland stamp duty fraud followed by a political coverup on its discovery.

The second was a house at 41 Dilkera St in the electorate of Griffith, a house bought by the Rudds and which they claimed as their residence while Kevin unsuccessfully campaigned for the seat of Griffith. The Rudds sold the house without ever living in it.

The next deal was apparently part of an illegal phoenix scheme, ie the purchase of a bankrupt company by its own directors for a fraction of its former value and without its debts. The vendor, hidden behind a wall of trusts, was a union investment company which was a fully owned subsidiary of a company called Texberg Pty Ltd. Here's a condensed version of what happened:

Texberg bought a house at 85 Norman Crescent, Norman Park, Qld on 5/5/94 for $500,000 and spent $50,000 renovating it. Texberg sold the house to the Rudds, without advertising it, on 14/12/94 for $384,000. At the time, Texberg was being operated by ALP bagman and convicted paedophile Bill D'Arcy. The bagman's job was to pay people off for favours delivered. Based on the figures given, the Rudds benefited by at least $166,000.

PM me if you want the whole document.

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Old 3rd Sep 2013, 16:28
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50 in August???

Google search brought up this:

Boat Intercepted | Hazara Asylum Seekers

I counted 1342 including crew.

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Old 3rd Sep 2013, 22:20
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There's a dirty little document circulating at the moment giving dates, dollars and addresses of three of Rudd and Rein's residential real estate deals.
QPol are hardly pro-Labor (their union make Sir Joh look like a leftie ) so Rudd won't get any special treatment. I assume someone's sent it to them, and/or the REIQ?

On another note, what happened to 7's Sunrise? Being currently too far north to get channel 9 I threw it on this morning, and it's even crappier than it used to be. They gave the poll numbers for the Libs, ALP and Palmer but not the Greens (or Katter). The 'analysis' totally misrepresented the numbers due to the approximately 9% missing Green supporters. It was like they didn't exist; I know many people wish this were so (me included) but it isn't...

I'm not one for massive media conspiracies, but it did make me wonder. Mind you this was followed by Koch having a skating lesson and some guy dressed in a cow suit, so I turned it off before we got Plucka Duck doing the finance report or whatever came next. Wasn't it a news show once??
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Old 3rd Sep 2013, 22:25
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Worrals

No, Sunrise was never a solely news show.

It was a morning show with news.

Re Rudd Real estate investigation, I see in themedia today that
Abbott said he will hold an inquiry into the AWU dealings and
that included Gillard's role.
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Old 3rd Sep 2013, 23:48
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The first one, at 62 Philip St, Hawthorne Qld, if the document is correct, involved a Queensland stamp duty fraud followed by a political coverup on its discovery.
If there was a political cover-up at the time, that suggests the dirty little document has come out of the labor party rather than the libs dirty tricks unit.

I wonder if the voters of Griffith understand that a vote for Kevin is a vote for an early by-election.

Abbott said he will hold an inquiry into the AWU dealings and
that included Gillard's role.
Abbott's still pursuing a philosophy of "Dead, Buried, Cremated" then.
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Old 4th Sep 2013, 04:03
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It will all help to keep Gillard out of our lives in the future.

It looks as though Gillard has been offered an associate professorship at my local university. A reward for a job well done, I don't think.

If the allegations about her are true, she doesn't deserve any further public funding.
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Old 4th Sep 2013, 10:14
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Imagine having to endure that dreadful atonal drone for an hour, let alone for a whole semester, from the podium as part of your course. Then again, anyone doing political science - or what passes for political science in Australian universities (aka Left Wing indoctrination 101) - possibly deserves it.

I'd like to see part of the settlement that saves her from gaol time being she never makes a public appearance in any form ever again.
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Old 4th Sep 2013, 22:35
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A new low for Kevni's boys?

No Cookies | thetelegraph.com.au

They must be getting desperate to be following the American model to this extent.
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Old 4th Sep 2013, 22:47
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On ABC radio this morning, a news article about doctors and human rights lawyers demanding that a two year old refugee be transported to Sydney. The child is suffering from severe Downs Syndrome and other disabilities. Face it: if you were in a Third World country and the parent of this unfortunate child and there was this other country far, far away where the taxpayers of that country would pay all your child's medical expenses and a carer's allowance to you - for life - wouldn't you fork out $10,000 to $20,000 to a people smuggler?

There's an alternative argument: there are tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of deserving people in countries other than Australia with equally compelling and equally heartbreaking stories. Is the Australian taxpayer someone responsible for each and every one of them who manages to present themselves - uninvited - at our borders?
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Old 4th Sep 2013, 23:14
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I just voted. Got it over and done with.
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Old 5th Sep 2013, 00:38
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Voted yesterday as I'm flying to, of all places, Canberra on Saturday.

Won't get to the hotel until around 2100 so will "sadly" miss a lot of the coverage.

I'll be able to report on the mood in the National Capital over the following week.

I heard a report this morning that 2 million early votes have been cast so far.
What's that; around 20%?
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Old 5th Sep 2013, 01:21
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Hmmm... Banker boy has been relatively quiet this time...

2007 "the Coalition's Environment Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, kicked an own goal in Howard's face this week, after leaks that he had tried to persuade cabinet to ratify Kyoto. Turnbull denies leaking the story..."


An omen...
2007 "It was hilarious seeing Kevin Rudd give a press conference on renewable energy at a Townsville school on Tuesday, when the wind and solar batteries failed and plunged the room into darkness. The media questioning continued, but under the thin light of the battery-operated TV cameras.

..an omen of things to come if climate-change hysteria continues and the desire to drastically slash carbon emissions overrides reality...."



Dead treaty, but Labor's flogging it - Opinion - smh.com.au







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Old 5th Sep 2013, 02:15
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I for one am looking forward to complaining here about what (I think) Tony Abbott is getting wrong as he attempts to unravel the damage done over the last six years. I'm sure I'll be joined by a very loud chorus from the ALPBC and Fairfax as their "reporters" suddenly rediscover their ability to question what governments do (an ability that has been sorely lacking in 99% of them these last six years).

Here's a suggestion for Tony Abbott. Put a photograph - a very large one - of Malcolm Fraser beside your shaving mirror. Say to self EVERY MORNING: "I will not make the same mistake this man did in 1976".
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Old 5th Sep 2013, 02:35
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Is Leigh Sales just Bill Lawry in a wig?
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Old 5th Sep 2013, 03:42
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No. She has far less integrity than Bill Lawry.
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Old 5th Sep 2013, 03:59
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Nor, I think, the same reputation as a great opener.
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