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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 10th Aug 2013, 00:15
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You couldn't make this up. From the Pickering Post:

four boat loads of asylum seekers last night, one boat found in the Torres Strait, (this is genuine not a joke) which had 2 PNG nationals on board, who apparently are seeking asylum from PNG, Abbott has asked Rudd if he is going to send them to Manus Island with all the 'looking after' progams afforded to the illegals, what a dossie that one is lol. further into the mire for Rudd, I see Nick Carter on channel & taking about the front page spread in the Tele, said to Rudd suck it up princess.
Think about it. It's priceless. PNG Nationals row the 4km to Australia asking for political asylum and (as promised - 'set in stone' - by the Australian Labor Government), are sent back to Manus island with handouts FOR LIFE courtesy of the Australian taxpayer, handouts that the average PNG National could never dream of receiving in ten lifetimes.

They'll be coming here in droves.

Oh Kevni, I'll give you one thing - you're the creator of industries. In this case, a new version of an old PNG 'industry', the Cargo Cult. (For those not familiar with it, see here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult
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Old 10th Aug 2013, 00:58
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Should be compulsory reading for all voters

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Old 10th Aug 2013, 02:43
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The chances of Beattie as ALP leader look better with each passing day
Fraid not. Polling conducted in the seat of Forde since it was announced that Beattie was being parachuted in to save the day has suggested that the Teflon kid is going to come up short.
Too many bad memories left over from his time as Premier so it seems.
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Old 10th Aug 2013, 04:21
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We can all only hope you're right, GB. I find myself wondering if the electorate can have as short a memory as the polls are suggesting. Can 50% of voters actually think of Rudd as the preferred PM? Can 48% of voters want to see their final vote, after preferences are distributed, go to the mob who in under six years, have turned this counry into a hugely indebted laughing stock?

I can't believe it. They deserve, not just to lose government, but EVERY Labor main player deserves to lose his or her seat.
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Old 10th Aug 2013, 04:30
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Again, the case for non-compulsory voting.
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Old 10th Aug 2013, 04:56
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Remember these ALP luminaries and the not so independents? (I know you don't want to)

Swan,
Gillard,
Emerson,
Combet,
Windsor,
Oakshott,
Crean,
Conroy,
Evans,
Roxon,
Garrett,
Smith,
Ferguson,

(apologies if I missed any)

Rudd would like you to think it's all in the distant past and/or it never happened....
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Old 10th Aug 2013, 05:33
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It was interesting watching John 'Mcturdan' on the Contrarians yesterday. Even he freely admitted that Tony Abbott in private was "intelligent, charming and a class act". I almost fell off my chair but you'd have to think if only Abbott could translate across what he's actually like whilst also playing politican you'd have to think the polls would be slightly more lopsided.

Ironically salesman Rudd is despised by pretty much everyone that has either contact with him or has had the displeasure of working for him yet is popular within the electorate for reasons I will never know.
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Old 10th Aug 2013, 06:13
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Because he knows how to manipulate the media. For some weird reason, most of the TV meedja roll over like a dog getting its belly scratched in the presence of The Great Leader.
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Old 10th Aug 2013, 06:16
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Jeps. Rudd is the classic Used Car salesman. (And I unreservedly apologise to used car salesmen for that sleight on their character) he will smile at you, say the nice things you want to hear, and promise you the world. Down the road, when the car splutters to a halt, he'll deny everything & make you feel like a fool because you've remembered a very different version of what he currently says.

Make no mistake, he's a grubby, smarmy, backstabber who's only after the job for one reason...himself!

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Old 10th Aug 2013, 06:21
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Rudd is Australias version of Obama.
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Old 11th Aug 2013, 03:27
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Says it all really....

NEWMAN RUDD'S STAR PERFORMER
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Kevin Rudd has been campaigning in his home state with the message that Tony Abbott will be another Campbell Newman. Let's hope so.

By Kevin's own measure of success - jobs - Queensland is now the national star performer.

Latest figures show Queensland has gained 18,500 jobs, with unemployment falling from 6.3% to 5.9%.

In just 17 months the Queensland LNP Government has reduced taxpayer debt and expenditure by cutting into dead wood and bloated bureaucracy, creating an environment for growth.

With lower debt there's less need to gouge the taxpayer and business, where money is needed to invest and grow. Business confidence is up.
When confidence is up, investment and jobs follow.

Labor on a State or national level is historically infamous for spending, debts, deficits, and ultimately inventing new taxes (carbon, mining) or removing business tax concessions (vehicle FBT) to fill its expanding budget holes.

Previously, fiscally vandalised states were led down the road to debt and deficit by Labor Premiers, John Cain - Joan Kirner (Vic), Bob Carr - Morris Iemma - Nathan Rees - Kristina Kenneally (NSW), Peter Beattie - Anna Bligh (Qld) and nationally, by Prime Ministers Whitlam, Hawke - Keating, and now Rudd - Gillard - Rudd: the political juveniles.

It's always left to Liberal rationalists to come in to clean up Labor's mess: Jeff Kennett (Vic), Barry O'Farrell (NSW), Campbell Newman (Qld) and nationally, John Howard - Peter Costello and Tony Abbott - Joe Hockey, if they win the September 7 election: the political grown-ups.

Rudd can no longer warn the country Abbott is another Newman, because that's what the country is crying out for.

Business at a national level is stagnant, as it was in Queensland, as it was in NSW, as it was pre-Kennett in Victoria. Business needs grown up leadership and responsible policies, not selfies or nursery rhymes read to 4 year olds.
Scott Haslem an economist for global investment banker UBS said last week that Queensland was the nation's "standout" performer.

Commonwealth Bank economists highlighted Queensland's "buoyant" conditions.

These results have blown out of the water the Rudd-Wong-Bowen shrill cries of an Abbott 'slash and burn', 'cut to the bone' and 'austerity' program. Jobs grow from less tax and less debt and deficit. Just look at the mess in the socialist European countries.

Tough love and discipline is the only real option on the road to recovery.
Economists also warn of national unemployment trending to 6% as mining slows. Even Ruddís budget forecast is an escalating 6.2%.

Queensland is trending the opposite way with jobs growth in areas of tourism and construction in SE Queensland, as well as the coal seam gas industry.

In contrast, Labor states such as Tasmania (8.2% unemployment) and South Australia (7.1%) are facing a jobs crisis. Yes, the only two Labor states.

If Rudd and his Labor colleagues were honest about wanting to create jobs, they could do worse than adopt a leaf from the Queensland LNP book when it comes to trimming bloated bureaucracy and promoting an environment where jobs will grow in the private sector.

After all, Rudd did suddenly lurch to the right when his political survival depended on stopping the boats.

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Old 11th Aug 2013, 07:29
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Just received an email from a fried that poses a question I can't answer.

Like Cadburys, Bega Cheese and many other food producers in Australia, the manufacturers of Vegemite pay a fee (and quite a sizeable one) to an Islamic organisation that allows them to put the stamp 'Halal certified' on the wrapping of their products, which adds to the price that we, who don't care whether it's halal certified or not, pay for those products.

(From the Pickering Post.) Why is Vegemite halal certified? Itís a vegetable extract. Do Islamists also kill their vegetables in a certain way now?


Can someone answer this?
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Old 11th Aug 2013, 07:36
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It's simple. It's an invasion. And you bow down to your invaders, if you have chosen not to fight back.
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Old 11th Aug 2013, 08:31
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Plenty of foods are also Kosher certified, but there's a lot less noise about it. 'Suitable for vegetarians' is also appearing on many Indian-style snack food products and potato chips. The only truthful, unbiassed statements on packaged foods are the government mandated ingredient list and the nutrition panel. Everything else is just lies and marketing carefully designed to make you buy their product rather than the hundred other identical brands of strawberry jam.

Personally I get more cranky about dodgy country of origin labels, where the manufacturer puts some vague 'packaged in Australia' slogan on an imported product. 'Made in Australia from local and imported ingredients' is another gem, where you know damned well that they chuck one Australian pineapple into the vat of Thai imports every week so they can fool inattentive shoppers into thinking their product is local.

If you don't approve of the Halal certification, don't buy the products and write to the food company telling them why. IMO the Heart Foundation tick is even more ridiculous, which became obvious when they allowed McDonalds to use it on their token 'healthy' options.

I could get going about 'free-range' eggs and poultry, but that's a rant for another time. Caveat Emptor!
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Old 11th Aug 2013, 08:33
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Fair points WITW
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Old 11th Aug 2013, 09:29
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Thanks.
Is anyone else half-watching the leadership debate? I'm getting horrible flashbacks to the last time I bought a car... and that goes for both of them.

All the 'you're a dumbo and I've got the answers to questions you never asked' spin coupled with whole sentences full of buzz words about economy and the enviroment, glossing over the fact that both are peddling two fairly average products that look and sound very similar...

Falcodore politics.

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Old 11th Aug 2013, 10:41
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According to the ALPBC, Beattie is showing 8% behind the incumbent in the latest poll. Honeymoon period did not last long!
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Old 11th Aug 2013, 10:41
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Watched all of five minutes of the debate. About as much as I could stomach! I saw enough to see the "worm" in the approve area for Abbott, swing down sharply when the smarmy git appeared.

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Old 11th Aug 2013, 10:49
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Managed to not listen to any politics this weekend which was good.

I might read the papers to see who won the debate.

Any comments from JB's who watched it ?
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Old 11th Aug 2013, 11:17
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Saw the last five minutes.

Channel 7 worm was down in the 25-30% approval area for Rudd and 65-75% for Abbott. Even the questioners got a higher worm rating than Rudd.

Surprised Rudd was allowed to use notes while Abbott spoke off the cuff.

Had the impression the call for debates may not have been one of Kevni's better ideas.
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