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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 24th Jul 2013, 07:19
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Well, the MSM in Australia might be ignoring the AS situation , but here in London , the BBC are all over it. They just had a live interview with the administrator of Christmas Island. He said that they have had 2 boats arrive today, 200 people, and they were post PNG announcement departures.Apparently the AS had stated that they were aware of the new policy, but chose to go anyway, believing it would not actually be applied.

The time for talking is over, Kev. It's action time, time to show there is actually some substance behind all that talk.
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 08:43
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And that's the beauty of "ALP Twist History"...nobody gets it!

But this "ALP Twist History", is sounding rather more LNP Spin?!?!

So, instead of being repayment for services rendered to the Fuzzie Wuzzies, it could have been an advance for the collaboration of anti Saddam Iraqi's?

I am not understanding what its meant by that statement.

Secret paymen....sorry....bribes were made to Saddam, unbeknownst the wider population of Australia....that is how I understand it, is that correct???

(Regardless of whether or not "that's the way you do business there")

I thought that was what the 'scandal' was about...???

Am I wrong?? .... I was once back in '83 Ha ha

Fail to see how legitimate AID going to (and had been going to under successive Aust Governments for years) PNG can be at all likened to secretive payments to a maniacal towelhead tyrant.

....perhaps 'LNP Spin history' can enlighten me....because at this time -

So, instead of being repayment for services rendered to the Fuzzie Wuzzies, it could have been an advance for the collaboration of anti Saddam Iraqi's?

.....makes no sense at all.....perhaps a classic LNP ploy to spin the truth into something it is not....you know say it over enough, enough times you begin to believe it....

Haneef anyone??
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 09:00
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But this "ALP Twist History", is sounding rather more LNP Spin?!?!

No prizes for second Fleigs.
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 09:36
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Just posted on Michael Smith's site. Four boats are in trouble. They are calling May Day's. One is coming from Sri Lanka. One is taking on water.
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 09:48
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Well, as I discussed in my post above, it appears that the AS are ignoring the new 'hard line' and just keep coming. Any new ideas Kev?
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 09:48
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Had to happen. More May Days than we can handle at one time probably!
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 09:55
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Confirmed today: Kevin Rudd will be my guest on The Bolt Report on Sunday, as first arranged a fortnight before he became Prime Minister
I'll believe it when I see it.
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 10:03
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It's like a hjigh stakes card game, played with human lives.

Rudd ups the ante (yet again) with his PNG ultimatum, so the people smuggling industry responds with a flush of boats meant to expose (yet again) Rudd's (ie Australia's) move as a bluff.

Unfortunately, it looks as though Rudd hasn't the capacity to deliver on his threat.

Re Bolt's show - Rudd has one 'killer punch' he'll try to deliver: our debt per capita is relatively low, so why should we worry? I'm no economist, but I believe that there is a basic flaw in presenting that figure as characteristic of our situation. I hope Bolt calls him on it, as well as nailing Rudd on the deadly results of his management of our borders.

Rudd's no mighty 'ex-diplomat', by the way. His diplomatic career was short, undistinguished and he soon returned to local political scuffling as chief of staff to Qld premier Goss where he was known as Dr Death.

The only entertainment Rudd offers is his mangled bureaucratic jargon and out of date, insincere folksiness.
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 10:04
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See post 7048 Cap'n.
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 10:20
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And another thing...

You can tell when Rudd is bullsh*tting:

- he becomes verbose, playing for time to think: "Well, you know what, Andrew? In relation to Mr Abbott blah blah I would simply say this..."

- his normally punctilious pronunciation becomes even prissier and more pedantic

- he asks himself questions and answers them

I could go on but I can feel my blood pressure rising.



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Old 24th Jul 2013, 10:23
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No prizes for second Fleigs.

Huh?

Are you going to respond directly, and address exactly how you draw a parallel between paying bribes to the butcher of Baghdad, and supplying aid to a less than fortunate near neighbour, that provided significant assistance to our Nation (Nayshun, if you prefer), during a time of global conflict......

And frankly....this statement still does not make sense -

So, instead of being repayment for services rendered to the Fuzzie Wuzzies, it could have been an advance for the collaboration of anti Saddam Iraqi's?
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 10:47
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As per the rules of "ALP Twist History" it doesn't have to make sense to you. Nor does it require any explanation! Now I know why you guys play this game. It's fun isn't it?
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 11:44
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Fleigs, your last two posts are the kinds of posts that got earlier Dunnunda political threads binned by the moderators.

That wouldn't be your plan, would it?
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 11:55
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It's been a long day here in Takikawa, towing gliders. The heat and humidity have really got to me today, and to top it off, after flying when back in the Cu Lodge whilst cooking my dinner I accidentally kicked a crate of empty Sapporo Draft bottles left over from the Sunday night party after the yearly airshow. I think I may have broken the little toe on my left foot as it is sticking out at a funny angle and is somewhat painful.:

Therefore, could someone please explain to me, in simple language if you please, just what the exchange between Buster and Fliegs was all about?
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 12:12
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Fleigs, your last two posts are the kinds of posts that got earlier Dunnunda political threads binned by the moderators.

That wouldn't be your plan, would it?
The Mods have been extremely tolerant and the contributors have been reasonably polite, even to those with diametrically opposing views, and I sincerely hope it stays that way. The discussion as you would expect has been robust but tempered, except for a few antagonists who have either been banned or given up and gone to play in another sandpit. One would hope that the Mods continue to remain tolerant and punish only with those who go that little bit too far.
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 12:47
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Thank heavens it's ok to sledge 3rd parties, like the unfortunate Rudd.
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 12:58
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What is wrong with Fliegs posts ?

For a start, they are MILD and I would say considered. Far more considered
than some of my posts directed at KAG and a couple of others.

He disagrees with someone and says so. OK, he's having a go at the man but in not that strong words and with reasons given.

In any case, what happened to the art of the person the posts are
aimed at debating the issue by posting a robust reply ?

I'm sure Fliegs can handle it

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Old 24th Jul 2013, 13:38
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It's interesting how far the dummy can be spat when the shoe's on the other foot.

Does anyone recall the question; "What has Rudd done to deserve your support?"
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 13:44
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Buster

No, I don't, but it was probably a very short thread
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Old 24th Jul 2013, 17:20
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Fleigenmong is having some time in the sin bin. Not for his opinions which were valid and interesting but for making personal attacks. I won't be able to keep this thread open if people are going to resort to that sort of thing
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