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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 3rd Jun 2013, 21:59
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Poor ol’ Virginia La Trioli on ALPBC24 this morning had to report through gritted teeth that the latest Fairfax poll showed that Lairbour would be thrashed at the next election. Well, duh! Even showed a piece from the left wing mouthpiece Phillip Adams saying that Juliar should go for the sake of his beloved Pardy.
However to assuage themselves they immediately “reported” that since the Coalition have been polling well, TA hasn’t been seen around his electorate of Moreton. Cue to the Layba member for Moreton Graham Perret who went on to say that “the mood on the ground is positive” despite the polls. Of course no opportunity for a Coalition reply – this is the ALPBC after all.
Delusion being spread by the delusional.
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Old 3rd Jun 2013, 22:21
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"Some of us already are. Unfortunately, they've got names like Ahmed and Bilal and they're importing those guns by taking up suburban post office franchises."



Very good indeed.

While the Gov't cracks down on LAFO', the rest of the Gov't is blind
to what has been going on with illegal imports or doing very little
to top it !

A bit like the Asylum Seekers
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Old 4th Jun 2013, 01:38
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Well, duh! Even showed a piece from the left wing mouthpiece Phillip Adams saying that Juliar should go for the sake of his beloved Pardy.
He's not the first. The last few years have highlighted the incompetence and rampant narcissism of Rudd, Swan and Gillard. Until the party gets rid of all three of them it won't go anywhere federally.
So what is the answer? Well in my opinion it comes down to the rule of law and the will to enforce it. I believe most Western countries no longer have the gumption to enforce their laws.
Absolutely . That's why you can safely walk around most of Singapore (or even Hong Kong) at night, but not Brisbane's Fortitude Valley. They lock violent yobbos up. We used to do it here; two decades or so ago when I started drinking we lived in fear of the Drunk Tank, aka Brisbane City Watchouse. If you were obviously drunk in public and making a scene, you ended up there for the night. Great incentive not to make a scene.

They stopped doing it in about the early 2000s when Queensland Police went huggy fluff, and the streets on Friday/Saturday nights have been getting more feral ever since.

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Old 4th Jun 2013, 02:41
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And here's me thinking that Brizzie was a couth town!
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Old 4th Jun 2013, 02:59
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"And here's me thinking that Brizzie was a couth town!"

It is.

Worrals was being very specific, Brisbane's Fortitude Valley
might be located in Brisbane but it is a world away from the rest of it !

Just my HO

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Old 4th Jun 2013, 04:12
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And here's me thinking that Brizzie was a couth town!
It probably depends on who you're hanging out with and where you are. Some of the big south side pubs can also get quite rowdy.
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Old 4th Jun 2013, 06:19
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Back in Joh's day, the Valley's sleaze factor was way up there with Pat Pong Road at its worst, the only difference being the birds in the Valley sleaze shows were quite a bit sleazier and rougher than the lurverly ladies and ladyboys of PPR.

The first (and only) time I encountered it, I was quite taken aback. I mean,man, it was SLEAZY. I've been back once quite recently, and I thought it was almost gentrified compared to the Joh days. (Although I must admit, I'd retired from the streets relatively early in the night. Can't - and don't want to be in a position to - comment on what it's like after midnight.)
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Old 4th Jun 2013, 06:24
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Even though like you I haven't seen it late at night,
you can tell it is a lot more "gentrified" that what it
was, even during the day. For a start less druggo's
around.
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Old 4th Jun 2013, 06:33
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I find this rumour very easy to believe.

http://bl*gs.news.com.au/heraldsun/a...lrd_to_resign/

Julie Bishop to Julia Gillard in Question Time:
Can she confirm media reports that Bob Carr asked her to step down for the good of the party?

Gillard:

Reports are “entirely untrue”.

Remember when Carr denied plotting against Gillard - a claim Canberra journalists treated as a complete lie? Not sure this latest claim is true, but am sure Carr’s previous denials were not.

UPDATE

Another rumour of the Gillard Government looking after its mates - while stacking the judiciary. A political insider writes:

For what it is worth there is a rumour circulating around the Victorian Bar that the government is going to appoint Nicola Roxon to the Federal Court.

I would be appalled if that were true. I trust it is not.
Nicola Roxon to the Federal Court? What as, a bloody file clerk? That's all the damned experience of the law she's ever had. If they do this, it would be (yet another) travesty.
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Old 4th Jun 2013, 06:41
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Roxon

Jesus, I hope that is a joke.

I know AG's have often become QC's / Judges etc
but at least they had some umph behind them.

As you said, she doesn't.

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Old 4th Jun 2013, 07:20
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Oh; I don't know.

It is said a certain Short William was apparently known to deliver the shaft from time to time possibly from said angle?

Could that be considered `umph'
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Old 4th Jun 2013, 07:22
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Of a different kind, yes
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Old 4th Jun 2013, 08:24
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I'm not here to defend Nicola Roxon or any other pollie for that matter but any criticism of her being possibly appointed to the Bench is I think ill-founded and probably based on ignorance. She graduated in Arts and Law with honors from the University of Melbourne and was for a time an Associate to a Justice of the High Court of Australia. For the uninformed, Associates do a lot of research that goes into written judgements, and also play a fair hand in their writing. She then spent time as an industrial lawyer before her foray into politics. Her time as A-G was well regarded with some of her legislation being copied around the world.

Just wait until Brandis is A-G and watch the balance of his appointments. Look also at Ruddock's term as A-G to see just how good Roxon was!
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Old 4th Jun 2013, 08:49
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Her time as A-G was well regarded
By who FFS? (Apart from Labor apparatchiks)
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Old 4th Jun 2013, 09:06
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Which legislation would that be, Ken?
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Old 4th Jun 2013, 09:39
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Cooda,

Many countries are introducing plain-packet cigarette leglisation. It appears that Westminster chickened-out on the basis of some reportedly skewered advice from an Australian 'adviser'. DC said he was concerned that the legislation would have an adverse impact on the packaging industry. Never mind the fate of the thousands each year who die from lung cancer or other smoking related diseases!
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Old 4th Jun 2013, 10:50
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With respect, Ken, NR was at the end of a process that goes back to the late 1980's and had been under consideration in other countries prior to our involvement.

She also had bipartisan support for the legislation.

You can applaud her role in presenting the legislation but she was hardly the ground breaker.
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Old 4th Jun 2013, 11:13
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I watched the second episode of the ABC's 'Whitlam' last night. I thought the first episode was quite watchable. A little skewed to the Left, (but then again, what else could you expect, it was the ALPBC after all).

The second episode was in another class altogether. It was so incredibly skewed to the Left, it was almost off the page. A succession of Leftie luvvies spruiking the "Gough was God" line it was almost unwatchable. I couldn't help but be reminded of the current government as we heard of Whitlam introducing a succession of incredibly expensive "visionary" programmes WITH NO MONEY AVAILABLE TO PAY FOR THEM!!!

Sound familiar?

For someone who was there, it was what they didn't mention in the second episode that stood out. Like the unassailable FACT that after the dismissal by Kerr, despite the demos of the Pardee faithful shown in the show, the electorate convincingly sacked the man. The fact is, by 1975, he stunk to high heaven as a leader, and until the advent of Rudd, (and then Gillard), he was without doubt, the worst prime minister this country ever had.

I can't help but feel that thirty to forty years from now, the ALPBC of the day will come out with an equally self-serving and one-eyed "history" of the Gillard prime ministership and there will be people like me who will watch it knowing that is the crock that the second episode of the Whitlam "history" was.

They say history is written by the winners. In Australia, the land down under, we seem to do it upside down. The losers write the history and declare that "we wuz robbed" - and they'll surely do it again with Gillard.
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Old 4th Jun 2013, 11:17
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I have an imperfect memory but something tells me that NR as Health Minister successfully challenged the tobacco peddlars before she became A-G. The fact that a lot of work had been done over the years or the fact that the proposal had bipartisan support is really irrelevant. She had carriage of the Bill through the Parliament, and successfully saw it in our enacted law.
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Old 4th Jun 2013, 12:10
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Sweet Jesus! Plain packaging on cigarettes qualifies as "well regarded"?
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