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Old 24th Jul 2021, 17:19
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I actually want to see some racing, but I do get the impression that the other drivers are unimpressed at the posturing little twerp so Max may well find himself in some tight corners.

It's actually up to Max to distance himself from the antics of his employers if he wants the respect of his peers.

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Old 24th Jul 2021, 19:02
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This all getting a bit pathetic.

Opinionated Team Principles have always been part of the show. As has said characters having a dig at the FIA. Horner is having a go at the cost cap as much as Mercedes
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Old 24th Jul 2021, 19:28
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One wonders if there will be "No Overtaking" signs appearing at corners that Red Bull deem "unsuitable" for their cars to be challenged at, in future?

Grow up, Horner or get the hell out of Formula One!
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Old 24th Jul 2021, 19:45
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RIP Carlos Reutemann

Haven't seen any mention of him on this thread - certainly one of the drivers of note throughout most of my greatest interest in the sport.
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Old 24th Jul 2021, 20:42
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RIP Carlos Reutemann

Haven't seen any mention of him on this thread - certainly one of the drivers of note throughout most of my greatest interest in the sport.
Post #9596 7th July. A lot has happened since then, I guess.
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Old 24th Jul 2021, 21:51
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Originally Posted by alfaman View Post
Post #9596 7th July. A lot has happened since then, I guess.
Thanks - missed it, probably distracted by Mr Hamilton's haute couture...
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Old 24th Jul 2021, 23:26
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Regarding Sir L's fine fashion sense, I am obliged to declare an interest here. A close relative works for a section of the fashion industry which has appointed him as their figurehead. One endeavours to remain impartial.
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Old 25th Jul 2021, 12:42
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Bear in mind that this is the first year that there have been budget caps and repeating Hamilton was partially to blame, yes!
whatever my opinion of him as a personÖ he is a very very clever driver and a would not put it past h8m to have engineered
the maneuver?
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Old 25th Jul 2021, 17:04
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Bear in mind that this is the first year that there have been budget caps and repeating Hamilton was partially to blame, yes!
whatever my opinion of him as a person… he is a very very clever driver and a would not put it past h8m to have engineered
the maneuvre manoeuvre ? (sp.)
At the speeds they were travelling, for h&m to have engineered a contact that would send [email protected] into the barrier in such a way as to write off his chassis, while escaping in a condition to win the race (even after a penalty) would make him a very, very, very clever driver. And then a few more verys.
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Old 25th Jul 2021, 17:41
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Originally Posted by cliver029 View Post
Bear in mind that this is the first year that there have been budget caps and repeating Hamilton was partially to blame, yes!
whatever my opinion of him as a personÖ he is a very very clever driver and a would not put it past h8m to have engineered
the maneuver?
He's a hard racer, but not a dirty driver. And the idea that he'd deliberately cause a very high speed accident with unpredictable consequences both for Max and himself is not credible. He was very lucky not to have suffered terminal car damage, or at least a puncture.
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Old 25th Jul 2021, 17:56
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he is a very very clever driver and a would not put it past h8m to have engineered the maneuver?
More likely it was as Casey Stoner put it to Valentino Rossi: "Obviously your ambition outweighed your talent."
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Old 25th Jul 2021, 18:45
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
More likely it was as Casey Stoner put it to Valentino Rossi: "Obviously your ambition outweighed your talent."
Having dabbled in rallying in my youth, I can freely admit to having run out of talent midway through a corner on occasions.
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Old 25th Jul 2021, 18:45
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Smile

More likely it was as Casey Stoner put it to Valentino Rossi: "Obviously your ambition outweighed your talent."
Stoner, 2 World Championships, Rossi 9 World Championships .
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Old 25th Jul 2021, 19:01
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Stoner, 2 World Championships, Rossi 9 World Championships .
Noticed that Christian Horner called Hamilton an "8 times world champion" during one of his live broadcast post-race rants.
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Old 25th Jul 2021, 22:13
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I think Hamilton needs to face up to the fact his days are numbered and just like champions past his skill level will deteriorate while those up and coming will surpass him, in a way this season has started it. Schumacher was the one that quit on top in my eyes.
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Old 25th Jul 2021, 22:51
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I think Hamilton needs to face up to the fact his days are numbered and just like champions past his skill level will deteriorate while those up and coming will surpass him, in a way this season has started it. Schumacher was the one that quit on top in my eyes.
Schumacher quit because he could no longer get away with cheating.
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Old 25th Jul 2021, 23:30
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I think Hamilton needs to face up to the fact his days are numbered and just like champions past his skill level will deteriorate while those up and coming will surpass him,
This is undoubtedly true, but I can't see any evidence that it is happening yet.

in a way this season has started it.
I'm not sure what races you've been watching to come to that conclusion.

Schumacher was the one that quit on top in my eyes.
Michael quit on top, and then came back to never win another race and finally retired when he committed an embarrassing rookie error and crashed.

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Old 26th Jul 2021, 02:47
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Originally Posted by PDR1 View Post
This is undoubtedly true, but I can't see any evidence that it is happening yet.



I'm not sure what races you've been watching to come to that conclusion.



Michael quit on top, and then came back to never win another race and finally retired when he committed an embarrassing rookie error and crashed.

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PDR, you have to get your head out of LH ass. He is an absolute great driver. But this season he has made quite some mistakes so far. He was extremely lucky last race as he was in Imola. He failed to benefit from the blown tire in Baku. He is under pressure. Face it
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Old 26th Jul 2021, 07:08
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Originally Posted by PDR1 View Post
This is undoubtedly true, but I can't see any evidence that it is happening yet.



I'm not sure what races you've been watching to come to that conclusion.



Michael quit on top, and then came back to never win another race and finally retired when he committed an embarrassing rookie error and crashed.

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Lewis has made more mistakes and errors this season than he probably has in the previous 5 combined.

That may be a sign he is reaching the end of his supremacy, or it may be an indication he is finally under some pressure from another driver.

But heís definitely made quite a few errors, some of them unforced as well.
Heís had the gods watching down and making sure nothing too bad happens though, his mistakes in Imola should have seen him finishing over a lap down, not on the podium.
Heís run wide a few times where other drivers have speared into the barrier, but somehow Lewis has managed not to, and you canít claim that is purely skill and ability, itís as much luck.


Whether this is the start of the end or he has a few years left in him, itís clear that he will deteriorate sooner rather than later. Iím surprised he doesnít want to quit at the top, instead he might be over the hill before he packs it in.
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Old 27th Jul 2021, 13:22
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As was stated above. LH was partially to blame and Merc. should pay a portion of the bill. But MV also has a proportion of the blame and should pay the remainder of the bill out of his wages. However it doesn't work like that and hopefully never will.

I found an F1 stats. website and see that :-

LH 13.5 years racing F1 has 7 collisions and 2 accidents.

MV 6.5 years racing F1 has 7 collisions and 5 accidents.

Draw your own conclusions.

Website--- https://www.statsf1.com/en/default.aspx
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