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Old 15th Jan 2021, 19:48
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Well If I was a gambling man and I'm not, I would rather put a LOT of my money on a cert, Hamilton, than a little on an unknown Russel, that had shown a bit of promise.

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Old 15th Jan 2021, 20:53
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Well If I was a gambling man and I'm not, I would rather put a LOT of my money on a cert, Hamilton, than a little on an unknown Russel, that had shown a bit of promise.
Not have to redesign the car to fit Russell.
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 08:34
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More "news" on Lewis;

"Speculation about why Sir Lewis Hamilton and Mercedes are yet to ink a new deal is growing with every passing day – and another person in the paddock has now cited sources as saying that the seven-time World Champion’s salary demands are preventing a contract extension from being agreed.Ex-F1 team boss Eddie Jordan, who says he has “excellent sources I can rely on 100 percent”, has claimed that Hamilton is simply asking for too much money and added that he would “show him the door” if he were in charge."“Apparently the parties disagree on the terms. I just heard that Lewis wants more than Mercedes are willing to pay,” Jordan told F1 Insider this week.“It’s also about sharing the team’s income and having an influential role in the Mercedes group. If I were the boss of Daimler, I would show him the door – either you drive on our terms or you go.“I would also tell him what Bernie Ecclestone said after Ayrton Senna’s death.“Even though Bernie was shocked and sad like everyone else, he was the first to regain his composure and said to us ‘now stop whining – everyone is replaceable’. Lewis should know that by now.”
Earlier, it was reported that Daimler, which currently owns a third of the Mercedes F1 Team, blocked a $50 million per year deal that was set to be tabled to Sir Lewis Hamilton in 2020.
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 20:10
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More "news" on Lewis;

"Speculation about why Sir Lewis Hamilton and Mercedes are yet to ink a new deal is growing with every passing day – and another person in the paddock has now cited sources as saying that the seven-time World Champion’s salary demands are preventing a contract extension from being agreed.Ex-F1 team boss Eddie Jordan, who says he has “excellent sources I can rely on 100 percent”, has claimed that Hamilton is simply asking for too much money and added that he would “show him the door” if he were in charge."“Apparently the parties disagree on the terms. I just heard that Lewis wants more than Mercedes are willing to pay,” Jordan told F1 Insider this week.“It’s also about sharing the team’s income and having an influential role in the Mercedes group. If I were the boss of Daimler, I would show him the door – either you drive on our terms or you go.“I would also tell him what Bernie Ecclestone said after Ayrton Senna’s death.“Even though Bernie was shocked and sad like everyone else, he was the first to regain his composure and said to us ‘now stop whining – everyone is replaceable’. Lewis should know that by now.”
Earlier, it was reported that Daimler, which currently owns a third of the Mercedes F1 Team, blocked a $50 million per year deal that was set to be tabled to Sir Lewis Hamilton in 2020.
Recycled rent-a-quote Eddie in the Sun, though - not sure that's the most reliable combination...
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 08:30
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Recycled rent-a-quote Eddie in the Sun, though - not sure that's the most reliable combination...
He was the only one and first one to call Lewis going to Mercedes.

And he called that months before anyone else.


Eddie is an idiot, and I cannot stand the guy, but he does tend to know what’s going on a lot more often than not.
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 09:32
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He was the only one and first one to call Lewis going to Mercedes.

And he called that months before anyone else.


Eddie is an idiot, and I cannot stand the guy, but he does tend to know what’s going on a lot more often than not.
I'm not convinced: a stopped clock might be accidentally right twice a day. He got that one right, but recall any others from then? I reckon people clam up near him these days, or feed him rubbish, knowing he'll run to the Sun with it. I read the motorsport press avidly, I suspect he's wrong more often than right.
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 10:01
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It’s never wise nor clever to do you’re negotiating through leaks to the press - which Daimler seem to be doing.

In the meantime Toto, INEOS and Hamilton seem to be keeping their mouths shut and the first two own the majority of shares.
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 10:45
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Most of what the websites and press print is speculation, to keep people thinking they are 'informed'. I haven't seen anything official from Daimler, INEOS or anyone else involved, other than Toto saying much of what is printed is speculative nonsense.

Separately, experts (here or elsewhere) confident that anyone in a Mercedes could be World Champion seem to forget that in 2018 a 4 times world champion in a temporarily faster car (until the FIA were told what Ferrari were doing and told them to revert to a legal car in 2019) still couldn't beat Lewis. Even his detractors in F1 admit that he is driving at a different level in terms of speed and maturity of decision making.
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Old 8th Feb 2021, 14:01
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Finally...Sir Lewis signs for another year...

I am looking forward to some wheel to wheel racing with the deck of cards well and truly shuffled..

any predictions for 2021?
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Old 8th Feb 2021, 14:36
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Finally...Sir Lewis signs for another year...

I am looking forward to some wheel to wheel racing with the deck of cards well and truly shuffled..

any predictions for 2021?
I bet that's a relief for Sir. He must have been worrying he might need to go on benefits.
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Old 8th Feb 2021, 15:37
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Originally Posted by ATSA1 View Post

I am looking forward to some wheel to wheel racing with the deck of cards well and truly shuffled..

any predictions for 2021?
LH will beat Bottas to the title. Max will be third....
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Old 8th Feb 2021, 15:50
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When it was reported earlier by De Telegraaf that he would be offered a 1 year extention it was said that;
It’s according to “De Telegraaf”.., the worst newspaper in the Netherlands, equivalent of the Daily Express.
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Old 8th Feb 2021, 19:29
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1 year and no team mate veto... that’s not Mercedes and Lewis meeting in the middle.

Seems like he was not in a position of strength during the negotiations.

I expect he’ll leave at the end of the season unless they keep Bottas or another weaker teammate. It’s clear Lewis doesn’t want to be challenged.


As for 2021, it’s probably going to be another pretty boring and predictable season. One can only hope 2022 is a bit more interesting and mixed up.
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Old 8th Feb 2021, 20:52
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Originally Posted by LlamaFarmer View Post
1 year and no team mate veto... that’s not Mercedes and Lewis meeting in the middle.

Seems like he was not in a position of strength during the negotiations.

I expect he’ll leave at the end of the season unless they keep Bottas or another weaker teammate. It’s clear Lewis doesn’t want to be challenged.

As for 2021, it’s probably going to be another pretty boring and predictable season. One can only hope 2022 is a bit more interesting and mixed up.
Utter cr4p: it's well known that Lewis has never asked for a team mate veto, so no different from any other season. Toto Wolff is quite clear on that - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/55380710 "There was never a moment when we thought he wouldn't sign and there was never a moment when he doubted." He also rejected reports that Hamilton had asked for a veto on his future team-mate or for a share of team revenue. He said: "None of that is true," and described the claims as "baseless".
Last season was anything but boring & predictable, unless you weren't actually watching, of course...
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Old 9th Feb 2021, 04:44
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Utter cr4p: it's well known that Lewis has never asked for a team mate veto, so no different from any other season. Toto Wolff is quite clear on that - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/55380710 "There was never a moment when we thought he wouldn't sign and there was never a moment when he doubted." He also rejected reports that Hamilton had asked for a veto on his future team-mate or for a share of team revenue. He said: "None of that is true," and described the claims as "baseless".
Last season was anything but boring & predictable, unless you weren't actually watching, of course...
Right, other than the part about Mercedes would dominate everyone else, and Lewis would dominate his teammate.
Just like every other season since 2014, except that one year that Lewis couldn't keep the car running, allowing Rosburg to beat him for the championship...
$100 says 2021 will be a carbon copy - any takers?
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Old 9th Feb 2021, 09:37
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If you really want to read something into the 1-year deal and the various statements that have been made, I would suggest it's more likely a hint that Daimler might be considering leaving F1 (perhaps by selling their remaining share of the team). There are as many works about Mercedes considering THEIR future direction as there are about Lewis considering his.

But if we set that thought aside for the moment - I suspect that if Valtiri fares no better this year then he will retire at the end of the season (when his contract expires), and George Russell (whose williams contract also runs out at the end of the year) will take his place. Once there, assuming the 2022 Mercedes Petronas car is competitive, he will either push Lewis to even greater heights or surpass him and take u the baton. I think if Seb can get his mojo then he will pee all over Stroll, and I would like to think that Max will despatch Checo by not succumbing to Checo's "bully-boy" bumper car tactics.

But that's more of a wish than a prediction because I freely admit I can't stand Checo.

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Old 9th Feb 2021, 09:37
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Right, other than the part about Mercedes would dominate everyone else, and Lewis would dominate his teammate.
Just like every other season since 2014, except that one year that Lewis couldn't keep the car running, allowing Rosburg to beat him for the championship...
$100 says 2021 will be a carbon copy - any takers?
Someone will take your money, no doubt; as no season has ever been a "carbon copy" of any other, it's an easy win. Presumably the other teams will be doing their best to unseat both the team & the champion, whether they do or not is as much to do with them as Mercedes - that's their job, after all. I wonder were you were so depressing when Red Bull dominated, or Ferrari, or Mclaren, or Williams...or Lotus...or Tyrrell..? Did you make the same fuss when Subaru dominated rallying...or Ford, or Citroen..? Or when Muhammed Ali dominated boxing? Or Manchester United dominated football...? If so you must spend a lot of time watching sport you hate...
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Old 9th Feb 2021, 11:13
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But that's more of a wish than a prediction because I freely admit I can't stand Checo.

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Wow, something to agree on. I cannot understand the fuss about him.
Anyway I am hoping Mclaren finally return to the party this season now they have Mercedes power.
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Old 9th Feb 2021, 12:24
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Anyway I am hoping Mclaren finally return to the party this season now they have Mercedes power.
Not holding my breath. They had Mercedes engines in 2014, but their fuel supplier didn't excel in providing a brew it liked. And of course WIlliams have had Mercedes engines throughout the turbo-hybrid era...

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Old 9th Feb 2021, 12:26
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Utter cr4p: it's well known that Lewis has never asked for a team mate veto, so no different from any other season. Toto Wolff is quite clear on that - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/55380710 "There was never a moment when we thought he wouldn't sign and there was never a moment when he doubted." He also rejected reports that Hamilton had asked for a veto on his future team-mate or for a share of team revenue. He said: "None of that is true," and described the claims as "baseless".
Last season was anything but boring & predictable, unless you weren't actually watching, of course...
17 rounds. Lewis competed in 16. Pole 10/16. (Valteri got 5 poles) Win 11/16 (only 4 other winners).

It was a bit more interesting in the midfield, but at the front it was dull and predictable. And the number of races where it finished Lewis, Bottas, Max. It wasn’t worth watching those 3, the cameras could miss them all race and you don’t miss anything.
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