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Old 12th May 2019, 20:57
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Grosjean and Magnussen nearly kissed each others Haases
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Old 12th May 2019, 21:02
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN View Post
It seemed to be to ensure that Vettel finished ahead of Leclerc.
Well whoever finished 4th doesn't really matter. Fact is not only did they loose fair and square to Mercedes but RB is now pretty much at par with them. There is a very real problem here.
And even if not as much in the spotlight Renault is also having a disastrous season.
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Old 12th May 2019, 21:02
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Originally Posted by hiflymk3 View Post
Grosjean and Magnussen nearly kissed each others Haases
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Old 12th May 2019, 21:56
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And now it gets interesting. Five 1-2s is impressive, but we would normally assume this will change at Monaco because the Merc's long wheelbase doesn't really suit such a restrictive track. So based on past form we would expect the red bulls and ferraris to dominate in a fortnight's time. In so far as the red bull is concerned I probably still do, but...

It has become clear that this new Merc, while being twitchy and challenging to drive, is actually very, very good in low-speed corners. This is why it laps faster than the Ferrari even though the Ferrari is measurablt faster on the straights - Lewis and Valtiri cant carry more speed into/through the corners AND put the power down earlier on the exits*. So I don't think we can safely assume the Mercs will be on the back foot and I'm actually looking forward to finding out. That's unusual because Monaco isn't usually a race - it's a garden party with a car parade...

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* This seems to be for two reasons - better mechanical grip and a more efficient mid-floor region feeding the diffuser more effectively giving more ultimate downforce for a given amount of drag
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Old 13th May 2019, 07:24
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Fact is not only did they loose fair and square to Mercedes but RB is now pretty much at par with them.
Well, Max is. But I think he's outdriving the machinery.
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Old 13th May 2019, 08:15
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Meanwhile, Ricciardo finished 12th.
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Old 13th May 2019, 08:15
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Every race this year determined by which Merc driver made it through turn one first after the green light. Even with DRS, fast cars can't pass other fast cars.
I watched the Indy GP yesterday - yea they are semi-spec cars, but it was an entertaining race. This is boring. It would have been a total snooze if not for the safety car.
And even Jensen Button now admits that the turd polishing aero trumps even generating mechanical grip (the engineers have been admitting this for years). In other words, most of the non-power plant F1 development money goes into creating aero bits that have precisely zero real world relevance. So much for racing improving the breed...
F1 is broken. Has been for some time, but it's not getting any better - it's becoming more broken.
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Old 13th May 2019, 09:41
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I have some rather nice hospitality over two days arranged for the French GP but I have to say, I shall be underwhelmed if the event is as unexciting as yesterday's.
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Old 13th May 2019, 11:35
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I realise they are driving uncompetitive cars, but does anyone else think bringing R Kubica back into F1 was a total waste of time, when it was first mooted I felt racers of that era are being retired from F1 who were still competitive such as Massa, why on earth bring him back into the sport after such a long time, I realise the accident and all, but it still makes no sense..
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Old 13th May 2019, 17:09
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I think it's easy to be too hard on Kubica.

The Williams is woeful. Russell is routinely at the back with Kubica. Yet he was beating Albon and Norris in previous years in the same machinery.
So actually Kubica and Russell in mid-field machinery would be performing pretty solidly, regular points contenders probably.

I'd like to see him in a better, faster car. He was looking good to be a championship contender in his first F1 stint.
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Old 13th May 2019, 18:59
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Am I sure the Red Team were racing with their new revised engine spec?
If so that must have been a very bitter pill for Ferrari to swallow?
Will these engines now have to do 2 additional races than originally planned or risk incurring penalty position losses ? Or if replacement is required can the older spec engines be refitted as they havenít done their allocated (intended ) or (scheduled) number of race runs?
Clarification much appreciated, thanks
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Old 13th May 2019, 19:18
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Sitting here crying my eyes out.....

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-surrey-48258777

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Old 13th May 2019, 19:44
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Originally Posted by The AvgasDinosaur View Post
Am I sure the Red Team were racing with their new revised engine spec?
If so that must have been a very bitter pill for Ferrari to swallow?
Will these engines now have to do 2 additional races than originally planned or risk incurring penalty position losses ? Or if replacement is required can the older spec engines be refitted as they havenít done their allocated (intended ) or (scheduled) number of race runs?
Clarification much appreciated, thanks
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They can reinstall the engines any time they want to. The rule for engines is that they can only use three in the season, but they can swap them around whenever they want. The rule for gearboxes is different - gearboxes must stay in the car for a prescribed number of races, so they incur penalties if they swap them out of sequence even if they only use the specified number. But having said that they are allowed to replace damaged cogs and (I think) bearings & actuators in a gearbox under FAI scrutiny provided they are like-for-like and (I think, but I'm less sure of this) provided the casing remains in the car while they do it.

Ferrari will presumably refit the earlier spec engine for races where power isn't a big discriminator (the two obvious examples being Monaco and Singapore) to even-out the life consumption.

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Old 13th May 2019, 21:00
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Sitting here crying my eyes out.....

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-surrey-48258777

I was welling up and Mrs H was in tears. The bravery of that child and his parents is humbling. Well done LH and Mercedes.
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Old 14th May 2019, 02:41
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Ah, thanks for that background story. Impressive.
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Old 14th May 2019, 07:10
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I thought it was nice to see Lewis dedicate the race with a direct message to the lad in front of the cameras, but then when asked about it just said "he's a brave boy who sent me a supporting message this morning" and left it at that. Only hours later did one of the Mercedes PR team give more details, and only after contacting the family to get their permission. Lewis does lots of this sort of thing, and usually keeps them out of the press. I gather Sebastian does as well - some of these chaps are "better people" than they are often given credit for.

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Old 14th May 2019, 12:43
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Zandvoort return confirmed.

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Old 14th May 2019, 12:50
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Max will be pleased - though isn't he Belgian?
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Old 14th May 2019, 13:58
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Originally Posted by strake View Post
I have some rather nice hospitality over two days arranged for the French GP but I have to say, I shall be underwhelmed if the event is as unexciting as yesterday's.
Hope your are flying in ...
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Old 14th May 2019, 17:47
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN View Post
Max will be pleased - though isn't he Belgian?
Half Belgian, half Dutch. Races with a Dutch licence.

Having Zandvort back will be good. I have driven one lap, in the dark, with a mad Dutch motorcycle racing friend telling me which way the corners went.

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