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Old 19th Mar 2019, 17:36
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Originally Posted by Linedog View Post
With regards to Botas, I think it will be a matter of IF he will be allowed to compete against Hamilton, or just make up the 1-2 for the rest of the season.
I get the feeling Mercedes are more concerned with the constructors title, and don't care which of their drivers win so long as its a 1-2

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Old 19th Mar 2019, 18:06
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Originally Posted by AeroSpark View Post
I get the feeling Mercedes are more concerned with the constructors title, and don't care which of their drivers win so long as its a 1-2
Mercedes has always seemed to be pretty good at letting their drivers compete properly, their only rule being "don't take each other off". A few times they've issued orders which have been either obeyed or just treated as suggestions by the drivers.
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Old 19th Mar 2019, 18:35
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Originally Posted by AeroSpark View Post
I get the feeling Mercedes are more concerned with the constructors title, and don't care which of their drivers win so long as its a 1-2
Teams strive to engage two top class drivers, then are faced with embarrassment when both perform.

What they probably need is one top class and one has-been or wannabe.

It'll be interesting to see how Vettel and Leclerc jockey for position.
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Old 19th Mar 2019, 18:44
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN View Post
It'll be interesting to see how Vettel and Leclerc jockey for position.
Well, if last race was an example of what is to come...
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Old 19th Mar 2019, 19:16
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For LeClerc to finish ahead of Vettel, one of three things need to happen.

1. He beats him in qualifying
2. He has a better start and/or manage to pass him during the 1st lap mayhem
3. Vettel DNS or DNF

Once the race has settled a bit down, that's it. Ferrari's never been shy about having a no. 1 and a no. 2 driver, and right now Vettel is their number one man.
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Old 19th Mar 2019, 19:24
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LeClerc was told not to pass Vettel this weekend. It will be interesting to see if he is faster how long he obeys team orders for, or indeed Ferrari persist with having Vettel as out and out No.1
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Old 19th Mar 2019, 20:11
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I think that the only time Ferrari will let Leclerc to finish in front of Vettel is because Vettel has a DNF.

I also think that as Leclerc isn't stupid he would never ignore any team orders during a race and
thereby risk his F1 future.

In addition I cannot see Ferrari wanting to lose face as it would look like they made a big mistake in
saying that Vettel was their No 1 driver.
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Old 19th Mar 2019, 20:33
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Originally Posted by Nervous SLF View Post
I also think that as Leclerc isn't stupid he would never ignore any team orders during a race and
thereby risk his F1 future
​​​​​​It always appears to adversely affect a "no. 2" driver psychologically if they deliberately give way, or are forced to give way to their team mate, especially if it happens routinely. They never quite seem to have the same competitive edge as before. Not sure it will be good for Leclerc.
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Old 19th Mar 2019, 22:04
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Ferrari lost themselves the championship by having that policy.
1999 (I think) right from the start of the season Irvine was sacrificed for Schumacher's title hopes. (1st and 2nd in Monaco, 3rd & 4th in Spain, 5th & 6th in France, in each instance Schumacher got the priority)
Then at Silverstone, Schuey broke his leg and missed almost the whole second half of the season.
Irvine lost the championship to Hakkinen by 2 points.
I think in fact Schumacher even finished 2nd at the last race of the season to Irvine's 3rd... which would have tied the championship
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Old 20th Mar 2019, 19:41
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Meanwhile in other news...

I just watched the first of the Ted Kravitz "Mid Week Review" programmes. Definitely worth watching, and with some interesting thoughts dragged from a rather wooden Rob Smedley, but it just reminds me what I'd really like to see after each practice, quali and race session...

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Old 30th Mar 2019, 14:34
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Introductory walk along the pitlane before qualifying - with a superimposed soundtrack of engines cycling (usual start-up).
So loud that it made hearing the pundits talking difficult - but the level of the engine sound didn't vary even though they walk way past whatever pit might have been making the sound.

Some producer obviously thought it would be a good idea - plonker!
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Old 31st Mar 2019, 09:07
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN View Post
Introductory walk along the pitlane before qualifying - with a superimposed soundtrack of engines cycling (usual start-up).
So loud that it made hearing the pundits talking difficult - but the level of the engine sound didn't vary even though they walk way past whatever pit might have been making the sound.

Some producer obviously thought it would be a good idea - plonker!
I was going to book me an audio test, thinking that my hearing was caput. Thank you.
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Old 31st Mar 2019, 15:34
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Well those first five laps were a bit processional...



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Old 31st Mar 2019, 15:44
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More interestingly...

Verstappen just did his 1st pit stop quite early in the pit window, triggering all the leaders to cover it off to avoid being undercut, causing everyone to switch to a 2-stop strategy in the process, and reshuffling the race. Once they're all done Christian Horner reveals that Max only stopped due to a suspected slow puncture...

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Old 31st Mar 2019, 16:33
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Seb has thrown it away once again showing Lewis simply has superior racecraft, and I think Lewis is now in with a chance of winning this despite being in a slower car and having made a bad strategy call

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Old 31st Mar 2019, 16:38
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Yep, that's done it. LeClerc's KERS has broken*, and Lewis has taken the lead. LeClerc's looking like he's heading for 4th, because he's going so slowly that Valtiri will certainly pass him, and so might Verstappen (and maybe even Vettel).

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* there was a rumour that overheating KERS was a contributor to Ferrari's poor showing in Melbourne

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It may not be over yet - Lewis is leading by 21 secs, but is reporting clunky downshifts in the gearbox!

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Old 31st Mar 2019, 16:48
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Originally Posted by PDR1 View Post
More interestingly...

Verstappen just did his 1st pit stop quite early in the pit window, triggering all the leaders to cover it off to avoid being undercut, causing everyone to switch to a 2-stop strategy in the process, and reshuffling the race. Once they're all done Christian Horner reveals that Max only stopped due to a suspected slow puncture...

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Yet again Vettel spins off due to pressure from Hamilton.
Feel so sorry for Leclerc but what about Fernando Alonso. Retired from McLaren just as they are starting to look competitive.
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Old 31st Mar 2019, 16:49
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Both Renaults just died - Hulkenberg looks like a grenaded engine, but Riciardo just looked like he ran out of fuel. Safety car is deployed on lap 56 of 57, which probably means that they will finish behind the safety car. That saves LeClerc's podium, because Max and Seb can't now pass him. So Lewis wins with a Merc 1-2, and LeClerc having comprehensively pissed all over Vettel. LeClerc still gets the fastest lap point, so Valtiri still leads the championship by 1 point.

Who would have predicted that...

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Old 31st Mar 2019, 17:24
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Well, after the second round of pit stops I thought the race had settled down to be a bit on the processional side. In fact it kicked off all over the show. Who said F1 was dull?

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Yet again Vettel spins off due to pressure from Hamilton.
That was odd, though. I assumed at first there was contact, but on the replay it just looked like Vettel's Ferrari spontaneously spun while Lewis was passing him. Didn't this happen a few times last season as well? I seem to recall there is a suspicion that the Ferrari is unstable under certain conditions.

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Feel so sorry for Leclerc but what about Fernando Alonso. Retired from McLaren just as they are starting to look competitive.
Shame about Carlos Sainz, but it's good to see a half competitive McLaren again. It's early days, but they're looking like the most improved car on the grid and they seem to be at least on a par with others in the midfield. Congratulations to Lando Norris - he's shown a lot of maturity for someone in just his second competitive race and he doesn't look remotely out of place. But you do wonder what Alonso might have done with this years car.
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