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Originally Posted by G-CPTN
Whilst using children might seem like a welcome idea, there is a lot of 'safeguarding' to be considered.
Each child will need a guardian or chaperone.
A parent will need a 'pass' or will have to pay for a ticket.
Then there is safety - keeping youngsters from getting run over as the cars come to the grid (agreed that they are now pushed rather than being driven).
Then they will have to be herded off the grid (gridgirls can 'look after themselves' and do as they are told in that respect).
Each child will need a guardian or chaperone.
A parent will need a 'pass' or will have to pay for a ticket.
Then there is safety - keeping youngsters from getting run over as the cars come to the grid (agreed that they are now pushed rather than being driven).
Then they will have to be herded off the grid (gridgirls can 'look after themselves' and do as they are told in that respect).
Obviously you can't ask children to do physical work (that would be exploitation) so the chaperones should hold the driver grid-place boards. In fact the grid is a dangerous place what with all the cars, hot engines, hot tyres, air-tools, high-voltage electrics etc. So while the chaperones are holding up all the grid-place boards on the track the gridkids (who would be too young to appreciate the dangers) should be placed safely along the pit wall at the back of the grid, behind the last cars and safely distant from the hazards.
There - does that sound like a workable compromise?
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I guess F1 on TV is coming to an end for me. Been watching Motor Sport since the late 1950s but as its going to only Pay TV that's me out unless I can find a computer program to show it. I don't know anyone who pays to watch TV.
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If you really want to know what feminism dying looks like, it is the worst industry in the world riding in and capitalising on its supposed values. It’s grid girls and darts girls, now also banned, being stripped of their jobs on pearl-clutching charges of “decency” while richer, more successful women such as Myleene Klass can take off all their clothes and no one even notices.
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I don't know anyone who pays to watch TV.
Explains why the BBC behave as decadently as everyone else in the taxpayer propped-up Public Sector, which is effectively where they hang out.
As for paying to watch F1, jeez, I'd need to be handsomely paid to agree to watch that mockery of fair, sensible and entertaining competition.
Edit: I might just be persuaded to watch F1 if there were grid girls.
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I get rather annoyed by people complaining about the tv licence fee - tv programmes require finance to be made,the viewer pays an annual fee for this. Commercial tv requires finance for programmes - the advertiser pays for this - who pays the advertiser? Whoever buys the advertised product. I am willing to bet that the fees paid by the advertisers are far greater than the sum of the licence fee.
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every[/U] TV viewer in the nation every single year. Pay Per View at its most criminal.
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Excellent point bcgallacher! Glad you raised it.
Bring on the BBC adverts, then. We ignore them/turn the sound off/switch channels/make a cuppa/have a pee. They are intensely annoying. Lots of other suckers keep watching the ads, maybe because they're too lazy to avoid them or, unbelievably, actually enjoy them. Some of them must buy the advertised stuff, which keeps the whole machine ticking over nicely, as you so rightly say.
We'd be happy to ignore them/turn the sound off/switch channels/make a cuppa/have a pee in exchange for removal of the BBC thievery from our bank account every year. One more Government supported, decadent mob scuppered.
At least we'd all then have a free choice.
Then again, if they had a few ex F1 grid girls in the adverts...
Edited to insert bcgallacher username, because somebody else posted whilst I was typing. And it's on-topic because I mentioned F1. Happy now, all you mods? Probably not.
Bring on the BBC adverts, then. We ignore them/turn the sound off/switch channels/make a cuppa/have a pee. They are intensely annoying. Lots of other suckers keep watching the ads, maybe because they're too lazy to avoid them or, unbelievably, actually enjoy them. Some of them must buy the advertised stuff, which keeps the whole machine ticking over nicely, as you so rightly say.
We'd be happy to ignore them/turn the sound off/switch channels/make a cuppa/have a pee in exchange for removal of the BBC thievery from our bank account every year. One more Government supported, decadent mob scuppered.
At least we'd all then have a free choice.
Then again, if they had a few ex F1 grid girls in the adverts...
Edited to insert bcgallacher username, because somebody else posted whilst I was typing. And it's on-topic because I mentioned F1. Happy now, all you mods? Probably not.
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I only watch one hour of TV a week as there is nothing worth wasting my time watching.
The BBC costs users £147/year. That's 41p/day! No ads, a huge selection of products covering all genres, radio, website, news and sport.
Careful what you wish for. The cheapest Sky package I can find is £20/month, £240/year, 66p/day. if you want the Sports, Movies and Boxed sets its even more.
And they still show adverts!!
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Do the engine number regulations apply to free practice sessions?
Just that Lance Stroll (Williams) had an engine 'failure' at the end of FP2 - Mercedes engine, too . . .
Engine shut-down into limp mode and was smoking - stopped on track (might have saved it).
Just that Lance Stroll (Williams) had an engine 'failure' at the end of FP2 - Mercedes engine, too . . .
Engine shut-down into limp mode and was smoking - stopped on track (might have saved it).
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN
Do the engine number regulations apply to free practice sessions?
Just that Lance Stroll (Williams) had an engine 'failure' at the end of FP2 - Mercedes engine, too . . .
Engine shut-down into limp mode and was smoking - stopped on track (might have saved it).
Just that Lance Stroll (Williams) had an engine 'failure' at the end of FP2 - Mercedes engine, too . . .
Engine shut-down into limp mode and was smoking - stopped on track (might have saved it).
The season officially starts when the pit lane opens for Q1 for the first race, although certain declarations regarding the car configuration that will be used at that point have to be lodged after FP3 (I think). So that would imply that the available engine pool is set at the beginning of the 1st qualifying session. But from then on they may only use components from that group in the FP sessions of the following races.
So if I'm right (which I may not be) then up to the 1st scheduled engine change (8th race?) they will use the same engine for practice and the race. AFter that they have the option of using the old engine for practice and swapping to the next one for FP3 and the rest of the weekend (they would not normally plan an engine change between FP3 and quali because the gap is only 2 hours and there's too big a risk of a problem occuring with no time to fix it).
All of this sounded quite reasonable when the prospect was 5 or 6 engines for a 16-race season, but we now have only 3 engines for a 21 race season, so if they haven't changed the rules we may see much less FP running in the early part of the season.
Alternatively I could have it completely wrong and be talking utter bilge - it wouldn't be the first time!
I'm looking forward to tomorrow's quali sessions to see if Ferrari and Renault have managed to develop some decent qualifying modes...
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Seems logical (as much as anything in F1 can be considered logical).
I notice that you chose reasonable rather than logical - maybe I should have done the same.
I was also making the point that it was a Mercedes engine.
I notice that you chose reasonable rather than logical - maybe I should have done the same.
I was also making the point that it was a Mercedes engine.
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