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Old 27th Nov 2016, 20:03
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Probably the slowest Dry Race win by Lewis.
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 03:58
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I can foresee clutch problems for the cars as there have been races with several safety cars and red flags - how many starts could the clutches cope with?
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 06:23
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Well the Little Fella won the race...but showed his really sporting ability in the TV interview right at the end,,,

I do not think he will be on UK TV Sportsman of the year award this year due to his very childish and unsporting comments/actions towards his team and team mate..in the Arabian Sands..

Well done Nico Points win the game.....and as Brucie used to say
"What do Points get...PRIZES "
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 06:52
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Congratulations to Nico - I was pulling for Lewis but having been a fan of his father decades past, not really upset to see him win the championship.

While Lewis's engine failure at Malaysia probably cost him the championship, a number of unforced errors during the season (such as several really poor starts) contributed just as much.

Cracking drives by both Vettel and Mad Max - while I'm not a fan of the rule changes for 2017, if the rule changes can help Ferrari and Red Bull close that gap to Mercedes it could make for an interesting season.
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 07:22
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Originally Posted by tdracer View Post
While Lewis's engine failure at Malaysia probably cost him the championship, a number of unforced errors during the season (such as several really poor starts) contributed just as much.
I also think Lewis can be his own worst enemy. Iíve no doubt heís in a different class to Nico when it comes to natural ability, but sometimes he just doesnít seem to be in the right place mentally.

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Cracking drives by both Vettel and Mad Max......
Thinking about the way Max managed his tyres yesterday, it occurred to me that one of the attributes of a great driver is the ability to race conservatively when circumstances require as well as aggressively.
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 07:57
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Reminded me why I no longer bother to watch the "sport". An Englishman would not adopt such underhand tactics.
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 08:42
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Effluent. I don't see anything 'underhand' in what Lewis did. He was sure that he was going to win the race for the team. I am sure he could have driven much faster if needed. Why would he not want to win the World Championship as well by trying something that would relegate his main opposition out of contention?. Any one else would have done the same given those circumstances, surely. At least he wasn't trying to win the Championship by crashing in to his teamate!...........!.something that NR was rather prone to do!.
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 08:45
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In the circumstances pertaining in this race, I asked myself "What would Moss have done?" Sadly, Hamilton failed the test.
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 08:51
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Exactly my point. I suppose I have a sneaking suspicion that Hawthorn might possibly have been tempted to try something underhand. But the idea behind a race is that the fastest driver wins. I just find that all these "win at all costs" tactics take away the shine from the sport.
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 08:59
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I am a massive LH fan and understand what he was trying to do, last throw of the dice etc.

IMHO what he should have done over the last 5 laps was use his 'hammer time' to its best effect and leave the rest to fate as this course of action was only ever going to leave a bit of a sour aftertaste to the end of an exciting season.
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 09:29
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
Reminded me why I no longer bother to watch the "sport". An Englishman would not adopt such underhand tactics.
I don't see it as any different to:

matchplay in golf, where you might might concede some of your opponents puts early on but ask him to hole out when you start getting to the nitty-gritty;

field setting in cricket, where you set a close in field when the opposition have just lost a couple of jittery wickets;

Anyway, if the roles had been reversed (Hamilton behind Rosberg), Hamilton wouldn't have let himself be backed up, he would have found a way past Rosberg.

Having said that all that, I think Rosberg is a worthy champion and it's the fact that he has beaten Hamilton with the same machinery that makes his win so creditable. Outright pace has never been enough, on its own, to earn a championship - consistency also has a value and Hamilton has dropped the ball too many times this season.

I appreciate Rosbergs' honesty in saying that he was worried during the last few laps, but surprised that he didn't realise that saying that he had everything under control and had it in the bag would have rattled Hamiltons cage even more in advance of next years battle.
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 10:03
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I think the shortcoming of Abu Dhabi as a circuit came into play there, it being virtually impossible to overtake. Of course if Rosberg had been determined to win at all costs he could have taken both himself and Hamilton out of the race at the first corner. I think there would have been some harsh words had he done so.
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 18:21
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
I think the shortcoming of Abu Dhabi as a circuit came into play there, it being virtually impossible to overtake. Of course if Rosberg had been determined to win at all costs he could have taken both himself and Hamilton out of the race at the first corner. I think there would have been some harsh words had he done so.
And a few giggles.
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Old 29th Nov 2016, 12:11
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NR has spoken on BBC Radio 5 saying that LH has constantly beaten him - now he has finally won!
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Old 29th Nov 2016, 13:48
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In the circumstances pertaining in this race, I asked myself "What would Moss have done?" Sadly, Hamilton failed the test.
Which is probably why Moss never won a World Championship.
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Old 29th Nov 2016, 14:50
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Why would he not want to win the World Championship as well by trying something that would relegate his main opposition out of contention?
Because Mercedes don't pay him multi millions to engineer a situation where one of their own cars that was about to finish second misses out on a podium.
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Old 29th Nov 2016, 16:44
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Stirling Moss had a near-fatal crash in his Lotus when it lost a wheel during testing, sustaining serious head injuries that ended his career.

He was on the verge then of starting a new season driving a Ferrari in British Racing Green, when that might have led to a very different result for his career. It's just another one of those "what might have been" things. Anyway, it's not that he was and is a gentleman that necessarily prevented him from ever winning a world championship.
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Old 29th Nov 2016, 16:54
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IIRC, SM ceased racing to collect on an insurance policy that paid out for 'loss of earnings'.
Niki Lauda (WC 1975) had extensive injuries after a crash in 1976, but he 'recovered' and was racing three races (six weeks) later and finished one point behind James Hunt.
NL went on to win the championship again the following season (and again 7 years later).
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Old 29th Nov 2016, 17:21
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chuks,

The career ending injuries were sustained by Stirling Moss during a race at Goodwood. I was there at the time although I have to confess that I was asleep at the time and did not actually witness the crash. It was the second time I had been present when he had a bad accident. The first was in a Formula 500 race at Fairwood Common when he spun and another car went straight over the top of him taking off his helmet.
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