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Old 31st Jul 2016, 19:31
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Rossberg is lucky that Max wasn't Ayrton Senna. Senna would have just thought 'fk you, I have the line, going too deep under brakes makes you a crap driver' and made the turn taking them both out. And Senna would have been correct.
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Old 31st Jul 2016, 19:47
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Originally Posted by RAT 5 View Post
What would have happened to Max if there had not been a runoff area? Nico made no attempt to put any lock on the wheel until he'd run Max to the edge. Both were very lucky the consequence was not more serious and damaging.
I thought that Max 'acted the gentleman' by steering away and allowing Nico the space.
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Old 31st Jul 2016, 19:50
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The 5 second penalty was the correct decision. Nico can blame his pit crew if 5 blew out to 8.
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Old 31st Jul 2016, 20:11
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G-CPTN - I think it's pretty certain Verstappen acted out of self-preservation. Nico's defending at that corner was almost a carbon copy of the move which collected Hamilton in Austria.
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Old 31st Jul 2016, 20:15
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'Nico's "defending"' = 'Nico's "I'm fked, I'll just go waaaay too deep under brakes and then hope he doesn't hit me"'
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Old 31st Jul 2016, 20:17
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Originally Posted by Hempy View Post
The 5 second penalty was the correct decision. Nico can blame his pit crew if 5 blew out to 8.
Toto Wolfe said that it was a problem with the stop watch "unbelievably"

I tend to think it was the team saying get a grip mate.
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Old 31st Jul 2016, 20:20
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Old 31st Jul 2016, 20:37
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The coverage on Sky Sports shows a lot more of what was going on in Nico's cockpit. He was very very late in turning in.
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Old 31st Jul 2016, 20:49
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Nico's 'he pushed ME off the track' must go down there as one of the greatest F1 embellishments of 2016.
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Old 31st Jul 2016, 23:25
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Seems Bernie's MIL's been recovered from her kidnappers.
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Old 31st Jul 2016, 23:28
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I must say that I wouldn't relish crossing Bernie.
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Old 1st Aug 2016, 03:38
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Fine drive by Lewis, more petulant behavior by Nico.


Am I only one that liked Hockenheim better when they still drove through the forest?
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Old 1st Aug 2016, 07:05
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A pathetic low act by Nico,deliberately running Max off the track.No other way to describe it.
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Old 1st Aug 2016, 07:31
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Originally Posted by RAT 5 View Post
I did not see this incident. In the world of pro-golf when ever a player has doubt about a situation he calls for a referee to give a ruling. It does not matter if that ruling is wrong, if the player follows the ruling he has no liability. Indeed I have seen some dubious inconsistent decisions, but the player remains innocent.
It was after qualifying in Bahrein. Lewis had calimed pole, and on returning to the pits there was much confusion about where "park firme" was. Lewis was directed (by officials) towards the FIA garage, but ended up parked diagonally across the front of it. An official then directed him to back up about 3 feet to reposition it. For this he was given a reprimand and three points for "reversing in the pit lane".

There is no referee, although teams are allowed to appeal decisions to an FIA committee after the race. Doing this is generally frowned upon, and entails risks; they general finding is that unless the team's complaint is a clear slam-dunk the FIA committee will support the decision of the on-course officials and will usually increase the penalty to discourage such impertinence.

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Old 1st Aug 2016, 08:00
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Originally Posted by tdracer View Post
Am I only one that liked Hockenheim better when they still drove through the forest?
I dipped into the broadcasts and could see nothing that told me where it was. Since neither Hockenheim nor Nürburgring looks anything like it did, I had to wait for one of the many chatterers to say Hockenheim - and I still couldn't recognise any of it.
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Old 1st Aug 2016, 08:23
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It would seem the general consensus on here agrees with the stewards; that Nico was at fault. In total agreement that Max, when he saw what was coming at him, steered clear of a certain shunt not of his making. Very calm and self-preserving. Nico was entitled to 'have a go' but to keep going straight and claim the whole width of the track is not respectful of the lunge he was making. He over cooked it and needed max to help avoid the double prang. He owes Max a huge vote of thanks.
That, therefore, confirms my confusion that Martin Brundle, at the time, was in strong approval for what Nico did. I wonder if he saw the cockpit view where Nico made no attempt to make the corner and then claimed he was on full lock and had no options. And after it was referred to the stewards, before the decision, he was still moaning. Very odd for someone who is usually sensibly minded. What is excellent is these penalty decisions are made by experienced veterans and not numpty amateurs. Thus there can be now complaint.
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Old 1st Aug 2016, 09:58
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Brundle hadn't seen the on-board footage when making his comments because a bit of political willie-waving between the circuit and Sky meant that they weren't allowed to take their skypad into the paddock (it was some distance away).

I see this morning that after the final stewards meeting Nico has also been given two penalty points for forcing another driver off the track, and that he's claiming they weren't justified. If he doesn't stop kidding himself he's going to get his mind into a "victim" mindset that will lose him any chance of another championship. He really needs to be focussing on why Lewis has won six of the last seven races, and how he's lost 61 points to his team mate over those seven races.

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Old 1st Aug 2016, 11:06
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F1 chief Bernie Ecclestone's mother-in-law freed.
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Old 1st Aug 2016, 11:27
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Bernie obviously didn't offer them enough...

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Old 1st Aug 2016, 12:24
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Bernie probably sent them the bill for holding the event.
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