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Old 24th Jul 2016, 10:00
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Thank you Group, I must pay more attention..
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Ecclestone drives a hard bargain.

So will he cough up for his mother-in-law?
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Old 26th Jul 2016, 22:07
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28 million would also buy a lot of experienced "help".

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Old 27th Jul 2016, 05:44
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If this was me, I would say to them "Good luck" and when you return her send some cash with her, after a few days they would be happy to get rid and send her back..!
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James Allison leaves Ferrari.
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Old 28th Jul 2016, 17:10
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Halo device 'not for 2017'.

Halo: Bernie Ecclestone says F1 will not introduce protection system in 2017.
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Old 28th Jul 2016, 18:06
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Silly Radio Rules Lifted

From "Autosport"
Formula 1 has opted to lift its controversial ban on radio transmissions with immediate effect.
The decision has been taken following Thursday's meeting of the Strategy Group in Geneva, receiving unanimous support from FIA president Jean Todt, F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone and the six teams involved - Ferrari, Mercedes, Red Bull, McLaren, Williams and Force India.
Ecclestone told Autosport: "We've decided to open up radio communication again.
"Everyone will again be able to say what they want."
Asked whether that would be from this weekend's German Grand Prix, Ecclestone replied: "Yes."
Autosport understands there will still be restrictions in place on the formation lap and that drivers cannot be passed information about clutch-bite points and mapping ahead of the race start.
The restrictions were introduced by the FIA at the start of the season, and tightened up ahead of the last race in Hungary.
But when Jenson Button was penalised for receiving a message from McLaren despite an impending brake failure in the Hungaroring race, widespread condemnation followed.
Button slated the regulations as "stupid" and "a joke", suggesting F1 "has a long way to go before it's good again".
Ferrari team principal Maurizio Arrivabene and Red Bull counterpart Christian Horner also declared a number of regulations to be overcomplicated, and that common sense needed to be applied.
Ecclestone also declared the lack of radio traffic was "not good for the show" when it came to the television audience.
A statement from the FIA read: "At the request of the teams and the commercial rights holder, the FIA has agreed to adopt a more liberal approach to the interpretation of article 27.1 (that a driver must drive the car alone and unaided).
"With the exception of the period between the start of the formation lap and the start of the race, there will be no limitations on messages teams send to their drivers either by radio or pit board.
"This approach is aimed at providing improved content for fans and spectators, as teams will now be required to provide the commercial rights holder with unrestricted access to their radio messages at all times their cars are out of the garage."
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Old 28th Jul 2016, 20:43
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At last some common sense has been used, it beggars belief that it takes one of the longest serving F1 drivers to make a comment that has obviously hit the right target,..enough to make them think nearly clearly..well done Button!
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No penalty for LH because of 'unsafe release' - 10,000 Euro fine for the team.
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Old 31st Jul 2016, 05:03
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Seems that Hulkenberg and Sainz have been given grid penalties but the site reporting that, (Pitpass.com), will not load to find out how much and why.
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Old 31st Jul 2016, 05:24
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Seems that Hulkenberg and Sainz have been given grid penalties but the site reporting that, (Pitpass.com), will not load to find out how much and why.
Seems to be working now.

Sainz - 3 place grid penalty and 2 points for obstructing Massa at T2

Hulkenberg - 1 place grid penalty for using tyres without appropriate identification during Q1.

Grosjean - 5 place drop for gearbox change.
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Old 31st Jul 2016, 09:29
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN
No penalty for LH because of 'unsafe release' - 10,000 Euro fine for the team.
How interesting.

Nico got penalised in Silverstone for a rule that has now been scrapped, and Lewis avoided a penalty for something that couldn't have been much more deserving of one.

Others far more cynical than me might suggest some conspiracy among the rule makers and enforcers.
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Old 31st Jul 2016, 10:00
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Rubbish!

Nico was punished for a rule that existed at the time. The rule was scrapped because the teams asked the FIA to formally endemnify them form any obligations under health & safety law should the be unable to pass on essential safety information without delays. Bernie then pointed out that the fans were complaining about the lack of radio traffic, which would cost them money. The FIA realised how vulnerable they would be to criminal proceedings so they scrapped the rule.

When Lewis was released into the pit lane it was initially safe. The team then stopped him (but radio) and told him to do some stuff before going. In the location where they stopped him the driver had absolutely no sight of the pity lane, and is utterly dependant on the team to tell him when it's safe to go unless they push him back into the garage - the driver is not allowed to reverse in the pit lane under any circumstances (even when directed to do so by marshalls, as Lewis knows to his pain). The team told him to go in what was a close call, assuming that Roman would slow and avoid him. The stewards decided that this was not the team's call to make.

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Old 31st Jul 2016, 14:30
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Originally Posted by LlamaFarmer View Post
How interesting.

Nico got penalised in Silverstone for a rule that has now been scrapped, and Lewis avoided a penalty for something that couldn't have been much more deserving of one.

Others far more cynical than me might suggest some conspiracy among the rule makers and enforcers.
And now Nico gets a penalty for Max running off the track.
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Old 31st Jul 2016, 14:35
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Meanwhile for the second race in a row LH starting from second place on the grid gets a lightening quick start leaving Rosberg and all others in his wake and drives an immaculate race to win in comfort and style....................just thought it worth mentioning
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From the comments of Christian Horner and Max he 'took one for the team' today.
He didn't seem bitter.
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Old 31st Jul 2016, 15:06
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And now Nico gets a penalty for Max running off the track.
for the second time as well so that's FOUR visits to the naughty step for rosberg...

Yeah I think in all honesty the stewards cut LH some slack with the release, considering his points for DOING AS HE WAS TOLD BY AN OFFICIAL I think it's fair to say that was a balanced outcome [despite still retaining the red mark on his record book]
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I think Nico was being a little economical with the truth when he claimed to have been "on full lock". The on-board footage from his car clearly showed that he made no attempt to turn in at the apex at all - just as in Austria he went halfway across the track before turning the wheel. I think he's not very honest with himself, so he's unlikely to improve.

Lewis was very quick to pass credit to his "starts engineer" who he says is responsible for his improved starting technique, but again we had a situation where Lewis was trundling around at the front with the engine turned down while others (including Nico) were going flat-out to try to catch him. It can't be doing much good for Nico's self esteem.

Hats off to the red bull chappies and both drivers, though - they ran a good race and got every ounce of performance their systems had available. If young Max can get into a suitable car he'll be the next multiple world champ.

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Old 31st Jul 2016, 19:26
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I think Nico was being a little economical with the truth when he claimed to have been "on full lock". The on-board footage from his car clearly showed that he made no attempt to turn in at the apex at all

Finally, someone saw what I saw. I was staggered by Martin Brundle (Sky) saying it was all fair. "I want to see overtakes by late braking. Thats F1." Bollox. What would have happened to Max if there had not been a runoff area? Nico made no attempt to put any lock on the wheel until he'd run Max to the edge. Both were very lucky the consequence was not more serious and damaging.

considering his points for DOING AS HE WAS TOLD BY AN OFFICIAL

I did not see this incident. In the world of pro-golf when ever a player has doubt about a situation he calls for a referee to give a ruling. It does not matter if that ruling is wrong, if the player follows the ruling he has no liability. Indeed I have seen some dubious inconsistent decisions, but the player remains innocent.
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