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Old 16th Sep 2014, 14:10
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In reaction to the response from teams following last week’s directive on radio message restrictions the FIA has issued a follow-up directive.

The initial directive was an attempt to prevent teams contravening Article 20.1 of the sporting regulations, which states that "the driver must drive the car alone and unaided”, since it was widely felt that is some cases the driver was merely the conduit by which the engineers and boffins were helping contro the car.

As teams expressed concern as to what information might and might not be passed on to drivers, leading to talk of coded messages, the FIA has issued a directive stating exactly what is and what isn't allowed.

Message types not allowed

Sector time detail of a competitor and where a competitor is faster or slower.

Adjustment of power unit settings.

Adjustment of power unit setting to de-rate the systems.

Adjustment of gearbox settings.

Learning of gears of the gearbox (will only be enforced from the Japanese Grand Prix onwards).

Balancing the SOC [state-of-charge of batteries] or adjusting for performance.

Information on fuel flow settings (except if requested to do so by race control).

Information on level of fuel saving needed.

Information on tyre pressures or temperatures (will only be enforced from the Japanese Grand Prix onwards).

Information on differential settings.

Start maps related to clutch position, for race start and pit stops.

Information on clutch maps or settings, e.g. bite point.

Burn-outs prior to race starts.

Information on brake balance or BBW (brake-by-wire) settings.

Warning on brake wear or temperatures (will only be enforced from the Japanese Grand Prix onwards).

Selection of driver default settings (other than in the case of a clearly identified problem with the car).

Answering a direct question from a driver, e.g. "Am I using the right torque map"?

Any message that appears to be coded.

Message types allowed

Acknowledgement that a driver message has been heard.

Lap or sector time detail.

Lap time detail of a competitor.

Gaps to a competitor during a practice session or race.

"Push hard", "push now", "you will be racing xx" or similar.

Helping with warning of traffic during a practice session or race.

Giving the gaps between cars in qualifying so as to better position the car for a clear lap.

Puncture warning.

Tyre choice at the next pit stop.

Number of laps a competitor has done on a set of tyres during a race.

Tyre specification of a competitor.

Indication of a potential problem with a competitor's car during a race.

Information concerning a competitors likely race strategy.

Yellow flags, blue flags, Safety Car deployment or other cautions.

Most of these bans are implemented from this weekend's Singapore Grand Prix, while those involving tyre and brakes will be implemented from Suzuka.

The ban on the imparting of technical information will also apply to pit boards.
sounds like they'll have to actually drive the cars again
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Old 16th Sep 2014, 14:56
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That's quite draconian compared to the current deluge of information.
I am in favour of the restriction, but the teams (and in particular, the drivers) will find it 'hard' (coping with the multitude of settings available to them on the steering wheels).
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Old 16th Sep 2014, 17:10
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I wonder if 'Radio' means only spoken messages? (If a green light comes on indicating a button to push, operated remotely, would that be a no-no?)
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Old 16th Sep 2014, 17:50
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Each team will have to have guys listening to rival teams' messages so they can dash up to Charlie to report infringements.
happening already
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Old 17th Sep 2014, 04:51
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Sorry, but teams have been bending rules since wheels were first put on a car.
I think it was one of the 50s/60s team managers who said that the first thing to do when getting ready for an event was to thoroughly read the SuppRegs
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A case in point was one of the European car races where BMC? worked out that a class needed to have three entrants to qualify for a prize. They were the only competitor in the class, and only having two cars on the trailer they entered one of the mechanic's (or spectators's) bog standard road cars - it didn't have to finish, just start the race
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Old 17th Sep 2014, 06:13
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No coded messages ? They are having a laugh. A weather report can be spoken in a way that conceals a message. "Rain is not expected" could mean you are not being challenged while "rain is imminent" means get a move on, you are being caught. The actual meteorological conditions are irrelevant as you can always say the original information was wrong. Proving the presence of a message is impossible. I would be tempted to say "grey geese fly backwards at midnight" over the radio and watch the ensuing chaos in the stewards room.
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Old 17th Sep 2014, 06:24
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"The violins of autumn sob with a monotonous languor." Is that allowed, quoting poetry to get the chauffeur to relax a bit?
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Old 17th Sep 2014, 10:14
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Is Morse code using clicks permitted?
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Old 18th Sep 2014, 12:10
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BBC Sport - Bernie Ecclestone: I banned team radio advice for drivers
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Old 18th Sep 2014, 14:29
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They could always take the radios out of the cars completely.. or better still, make them all use an open frequency.. F1 CB..

You can imagine processional races like Monaco - "this here's Rubber Duck, we got us a convoy!"
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Old 18th Sep 2014, 20:55
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Anybody know when this new rule takes effect? In that quoted block of text above, some lines have "only in japan" after them... Do some at least go in effect during next race?

I was hoping i could watch this sunday's race with a bit more excitement...
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Old 18th Sep 2014, 21:15
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I wonder what Alfred Neubauer and even that distant but wonderful Englishman Dick Seaman would have made of these infantile shenanigans...?

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Old 19th Sep 2014, 11:26
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The FIA's note clarifying the ruling with the teams said: "It seems to us that information being passed to the driver concerning the performance of his car should be separated from information concerning his own performance. It has become clear that the former is a very complex matter and that any list of restrictions imposed at short notice will have a significantly different effect from team-to-team. The latter information on the other hand can be considered simple driver coaching.
With this in mind we propose to postpone enforcement of the information being passed to driver concerning the performance of his car until 2015.
We believe this will give sufficient time for teams to prepare properly and, more importantly, to ensure that the regulations are being enforced fairly and equitably.
On the other hand, information being passed to the driver concerning his own performance will be stopped with immediate effect."
From:- BBC Sport - Drivers' radio ban parameters altered in Formula 1

See also:- http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...4/9/16360.html

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Old 19th Sep 2014, 17:48
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Crashtor Maldonado down to his usual standard in FP2.
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 12:01
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Great bit of pre-race banter between Bernie Ecclestone, Martin Brundle and Christian Horner:-

Bernie - "Singapore is a great venue for F1"

Christian to Martin - "Shame you are too old to have raced here"

Martin to Christian - "Yes and a shame you weren't fast enough to drive in F1"



Meanwhile it looks as if Nico may have to start from the pit lane due to a technical glitch
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 14:22
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I think I may have strained my adrenal gland.
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 14:31
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Good race (for some) - especially the spectators.
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 15:16
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Why take 8 Safety Car laps to clear a few shards of carbon fibre?????

Why are lapped cars allowed to unlap themselves?

I smell the hand of Bernie in extending the Safety Car period and his idea of three cars per

team and sod the backenders [who work just as hard as top teams with little money] must be

scrapped before it starts.....

Well done Lewis, a masterful drive......
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 16:37
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Why are lapped cars allowed to unlap themselves?
To avoid a repeat of the debacle a few years ago, on the very same track they raced on today. Back then there were two back markers between the leader and no. 2 when the yellow flag period ended with just a few laps to go. Instead of having a battle for position, the back markers slowed the progress of the no. 2 driver to the point no fight ever took place.
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Old 21st Sep 2014, 18:59
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Why take 8 Safety Car laps to clear a few shards of carbon fibre?????
Because the shards had previously composed the entire front wing. They were lying on the racing line and one would be enough to cause a punture.

Where are all the conspiracy theorists after Rosberg's DNF?
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