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Old 6th Jul 2014, 05:18
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Welp, that let's George Bush off the hook.
Not really, he had a duty to bring that situation to an end but chose not to and instead made GITMO a household word all around the world.
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Old 6th Jul 2014, 06:09
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I agree. The wisdom of creating Gitmo is gaining increasing renown. But I had no idea the whole world had yet come to that inescapable conclusion, given the widespread delusions of the post-9/11 period.
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Old 6th Jul 2014, 12:03
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Not really, he had a duty to bring that situation to an end but chose not to and instead made GITMO a household word all around the world.

Well, it's been so long, I almost forgot he was in the WH. But wait, didn't the current occupant campaign on the promise to close Gitmo? What happened? Reality?

Oh, BTW, not when. Who?
 
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Well, there ya go:


Havana (AFP) - Cuba's National Assembly opened its biannual session, with the communist island's faltering economy topping the agenda, but no plans unveiled for change.


Cuba examines weak economy, seeks 'socialist development'


Of course, one wonders at this:


Foreign journalists were not allowed access to the gathering at a convention center in western Havana.


http://news.yahoo.com/cuba-mulls-eco...150935232.html
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Old 6th Jul 2014, 16:53
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he had a duty
A duty to just whom?
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New Zealanders everywhere.
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Old 8th Jul 2014, 23:32
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Interfering in the politics of another country?

Sen. Robert Menendez seeks probe of alleged Cuban plot to smear him - The Washington Post

Who says the cousins do not do irony?
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Who says the cousins do not do irony?
The sublime irony is that Menendez is a Democrat.
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Sorry but I do not take part in the American Donkeycrat/Rethuglican 'bi-polar' political system.
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Old 8th Jul 2014, 23:57
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Well, there ya go:


Havana (AFP) - Cuba's National Assembly opened its biannual session, with the communist island's faltering economy topping the agenda, but no plans unveiled for change.

What, what? Not even addition of Icberg lettuce to the vegetable stands? How about pears to the fruit stands? I could have sworn I saw Iceberg lettuce and pears on the glossy brochures at the travel agency. Who would have taken pictures of something like that if it doesn't exist?
 
Old 9th Jul 2014, 00:00
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Sorry but I do not take part in the American Donkeycrat/Rethuglican bi-polar political system.
If one is prepared to criticize everything America does, as some do here, you would think the very first requirement would be to be perfectly versed in the nuances of the country's political system and structure.
 
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Sorry but I do not take part in the American Donkeycrat/Rethuglican 'bi-polar' political system.
Well of course you don't.
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Who says we are cousins?

Well now back in my single days, I had what could be considered a “kissing cousin” from New Zealand that I met at a NBAA convention in Las Vegas, if we are indeed cousins as one here seems to think.
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Urban Dictionary: Cuzzie Bro
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 01:20
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Is this the one that has "Field Marshall" in it?
 
Old 9th Jul 2014, 06:12
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Sorry but I do not take part in the American Donkeycrat/Rethuglican 'bi-polar' political system.
I see you as akin to a Democrat on the basis of your posts here. In fact, you are a prototype of the ultimate Democrat, even though you don't take part.
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 15:53
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Not really, he had a duty to bring that situation to an end .
No, he did not. Your understanding of American policy formation is sadly bankrupt.

Beyond that, where do you come up with this kind of falsehood? Your opinion on a matter does not equal a duty obliging the head of state of any nation to do anything.
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 19:37
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Lonewolf 50, it patently obvious that the American policy towards the regime in Cuba (and North Korea) is achieving no good purpose and is contributing to the suffering and deprivation of millions of people while doing nothing to change the regimes. If it is not the President's duty to change the policy whose is it?

Whatever happened to "The buck stops here"?
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 19:48
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JH, without getting into the "who started it?" debate NK and Cuba are two completely different scenarios.

NK has isolated itself from the rest of the world. No westerner can come in and no trade with the West is being carried out as government policy (except for Li'll fat Kim's Cognac and his wife's Hermes purses).

Cuba has a great number of tourists coming to to the island, from all over the world, even some Americans (J Lo, Jimmy Carter, etc.). American companies are prevented from conducting business with Cuba (let'e not get into the minutia of the exact ways this is done), but any other country is free to do trade with cuba. Why don't they? Does NZ trade with Cuba? I haven't heard of "two free frozen lambs" with a bag of rice, but hey, maybe I missed it.
 

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