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Old 27th Mar 2014, 23:53
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Umm I thought the UK was part of Europe,
Ooh, wouldn't say that in a Pub in England.

I did once, it hurt.
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 23:57
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UN declares Crimea election illegal

UN SG also stated US-led Invasion of Iraq was illegal

1-1

That's how Putin will see it anyway.

Extra-time or Penalties?
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Old 28th Mar 2014, 00:01
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UN declares Crimea election illegal

UN SG also stated US-led Invasion of Iraq was illegal

Which proves that the UN is basically wothless, as no one pays a bit of attention to it.
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Old 28th Mar 2014, 00:02
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Appreciate the sentiment, rh200.

It's a fact. The US people no longer want to police the world. The world dislikes us for it, it's a thankless job, and someone else can have it.
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Old 28th Mar 2014, 00:14
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Agree, I get that feeling, but please don't let the UN try to do it,
we'll have fully luvvies running around all over the place, as they
do now but some people might actually take notice of them

And we wouldn't want that !



I am enjoying watching the UN over here sprout the usual crap and
Tony Abbott, our PM totally ignoring them
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Old 28th Mar 2014, 00:23
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Ooh, wouldn't say that in a Pub in England.
Yea I know, but its sort of true. Its a bit like Western Australia and the other side, instead of a creek running between the UK and Europe we have a desert. Makes things bearable

It's a fact. The US people no longer want to police the world. The world dislikes us for it, it's a thankless job, and someone else can have it
Its a convolution of several factors.

Tall poppy syndrome, the usual human trait of under estimating how hard something is and thinking "we could do better if only". and not appreciating something until you've lost it. Something the Ukrainians are about the learn and the Europeans are about to get a lesson on as well.

Never know, this showing Obama as spinless as he is, might just be enough to ensure republican victory next presidential election.
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Old 28th Mar 2014, 00:23
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when the option of remaining with the Ukriane was not offered, is beyond me.
Was anybody in Crimea given any option when Kruschev "gave" the country to Ukraine?
 
Old 28th Mar 2014, 00:38
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Was anybody in Crimea given any option when Kruschev "gave" the country to Ukraine?
Who cares, I don't. Just like now, not our affair, the vote came out as Putin wanted it, just like Kruschev did what he wanted.

Also noticed you've still not answered my questions, I answered yours.

Bit un-polite you know. But if you are too embarrassed, no problem, carry on.
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Old 28th Mar 2014, 00:41
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Was anybody in Crimea given any option when Kruschev "gave" the country to Ukraine?
Why would they be given a choice, they where part of a Communist empire, choice is not one of the things you get.

I would have been happy for them to have a free vote under the watchful eye of international forces or something to that effect. Common sense will tell you that they wern't that sure of the outcome, hence didn't want that to happen.
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Old 28th Mar 2014, 00:59
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So, considereing the above, just what, pray tell, is a rigged election in your opinon?
Is that the question to which you refer?


I replied

We have seen video over here of bully boy tactics by black panther members outside polling booths in America. Does that mean we conclude that this happens in all America? We have seen police acting very harshly against Wall Street protestors, does that mean all American protests are harried by police?
Add to the list of news gatherers Al Jazeera and Russian TV. Surely one must listen to the other side as well?
 
Old 28th Mar 2014, 01:07
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We were talking about the Ukraine, the questions were about the Ukriane.

This is a non, mis-direction answer.

We have seen video over here of bully boy tactics by black panther members outside polling booths in America. Does that mean we conclude that this happens in all America? We have seen police acting very harshly against Wall Street protestors, does that mean all American protests are harried by police?
So don't worry, it is quite obvious that you are incapable of answering questions, only asking them, or giving non-answers, just like your countryman, John Hill.

So forget it.

I also noticed you still refuse to answer what source you were using, so to save webspace, don't bother. As you proved the type of person you are.

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Old 28th Mar 2014, 01:16
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Add to the list of news gatherers Al Jazeera and Russian TV. Surely one must listen to the other side as well?
These are part of where I get my news reports from.

.I also noticed you still refuse to answer what source you were using, so to save webspace, don't bother. As you proved the type of person you are.
I have always had doubts about people who make assumptions on very little information, so the feeling is quite mutual.

Of course it does not, it just means a few reporters are trying to get a scoop to sell their papers.
Without putting in all relative parts of the post are you deliberately trying to change the meaning?

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Old 28th Mar 2014, 01:22
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The UN SG might read UNSC Resolution 678 which authorized:

Authorizes Member States co-operating with the Government of Kuwait, unless Iraq on or before 15 January 1991 fully implements, as set forth in paragraph 1 above, the above-mentioned resolutions, to use all necessary means to uphold and implement resolution 660 (1990) and all subsequent relevant resolutions and to restore international peace and security in the area;
Following the end of the 1991 war, Resolution 687 committed Iraq to an inspection regime which ended when Saddam threw out the UN.

Next time, we won't be the cop, we'll just nuke the offenders.

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Old 28th Mar 2014, 02:05
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Next time, we won't be the cop, we'll just nuke the offenders.
Isn't the next time happening right now?
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Old 28th Mar 2014, 12:32
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Okay, prospector, let's play. Where, then, does the West draw the proverbial line? After Russia takes back the entire Ukraine? Or do we let that one go and wait until after Belarus is brought back into the fold? or Poland? Or Estonia? Or Latvia? Luthuania? Or maybe Moldova?
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Old 28th Mar 2014, 12:35
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Umm I thought the UK was part of Europe,
Um, no it's not. Anyone with at least half of a brain would realize that the UK is part of Poland. Sheesh.
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Old 28th Mar 2014, 13:31
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Um, no it's not. Anyone with at least half of a brain would realize that the UK is part of Poland. Sheesh.
Remember there is dry land connecting the UK and France . Though I imagine that only lasts as long as the pumps keep going
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Old 28th Mar 2014, 17:28
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Ah yes, Eric the Holder and his Justice Department at it again, trumping States' rights.

Eric the Holder announced today that, despite the fact the the state of Michigan will not recognize same-sex marriage, and despite the fact that a Federal Appeals court upheld that in ruling, effectively halting same-sex marriages in MI, the federal government WILL recognize these marriages.

Hey Holder? Read the f***ing Constitution.
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Old 28th Mar 2014, 17:32
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Hey Holder? Read the f***ing Constitution.
Why should Holder, no one else in the Obama Administration has.
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Old 28th Mar 2014, 17:40
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This is true con. Unfortunately all too true. The state of Michigan should tell him to go shove it where the sun don't shine.
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