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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 17:29
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Early voting results so far show:

Romney - 52%
Obama - 45%
Other - 3%
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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 17:31
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Yes, but the worst would be a strong lberal president who has a personal fortune in real estate or overseas,

Every chance I get I will vote out incumbnents who were part of the screwed up congress. The problem is when nobody else is offered.

Oh and BTW the most diffcult part of voting is having to read and understand the pros and cons of new laws affecting me. Somebody needs to put these in plain english in front of the public just prior to voting. I am no longer in favor of entitlements of any kind seeing as how they just grow like a cancer as the patient (two generations from now) slowly dies anyways.
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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 17:46
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Don't you do it, but I simply must. And it is not hypocritical in the least...

Reid says he can't work with Romney - Washington Times

Five days before the election, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has ruled out trying to work with Mitt Romney should he win next week.

"Mitt Romney's fantasy that Senate Democrats will work with him to pass his 'severely conservative' agenda is laughable," Mr. Reid said in a statement on Friday, trying to puncture Mr. Romney's closing election argument that he'll be able to deliver on the bipartisanship President Obama promised in 2008 but has struggled to live up to.
Now, if he is the opposition, I really can't fault him since that is, by definition, what the opposition is supposed to do.

I do seem to recall a line or two in the press and here about Sen McConnell's oft-taken out of context remarks along the same lines.

But that must be different.

So, to my simple mind, the key is to put the Democrats into the minority. I believe that is ultimately a more important goal than keeping Obama from another term.

There would have to be a final reckoning about what Obama can do without Congress. Which is sorely needed.
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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 17:48
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So one can insinuate from Mr. Reid's statement that should Romney win then we'll be back to the do nothing Senate.

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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 18:13
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One suspects that Mr. Reid may not have the same job if the GOP takes the Senate back. Look how much clout Nancy Pelosi has now that she is no longer Speaker of the House. He can still put up a fuss but he wouldn't be the top dog anymore.
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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 18:40
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I hear ya, Joe. I feel your pain....

Joe Biden, at a campaign event today said, "There's never been a day in the last four years I've been proud to be his vice president."
Biden: 'There's Never Been A Day In The Last Four Years I've Been Proud To Be His Vice President' | The Weekly Standard
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Old 2nd Nov 2012, 20:40
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Good ol' Joe. It must be w
Awful to have to live off a steady diet of foot in the mouth.
Old 2nd Nov 2012, 20:49
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Cleanest feet in politics... They spend barely any time in his shoes and a lot of time being washed in his mouth...
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Old 3rd Nov 2012, 00:56
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For your enjoyment, pick one or two and expand upon it...

Chart: Almost Every Obama Conspiracy Theory Ever | Mother Jones

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Old 3rd Nov 2012, 01:24
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I am so shocked

MSNBC really is more partisan than Fox, according to Pew study - baltimoresun.com

In related news, sun raises in the East.
Old 3rd Nov 2012, 01:47
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NURSE !!!!!! ...............................
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Old 3rd Nov 2012, 02:27
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Trying to understand this gas crisis in New York and Jersey.
Just filled up my truck and bike today here in SC, paid 3.07 a gallon for regular.
Premium for the bike was 3.25.
Harleys wont run well on that cheap regular fuel with ethenal.
But generators will.
What amazed me is why cant the Red Cross or welfare man truck some gasoline up there now., what is it about 500 miles or so.
Sell it out of the back of the tanker truck or even give it to the ones with no heat or electric.
Sad to see little kids there all wrapped up with the cold they will have to endure.
He has given welfare to ones that did not deserve many times before.
This time people really need it.
As far as i see it there is no excuse for this.
He stated all red tape removed, he cant see the forest for the trees.
Hope Wednesday morning he will get his termination papers.
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Old 3rd Nov 2012, 02:31
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Visible sign of crafting a message for and deflecting criticism from the administration. NBC nightly news painted a very rosy picture of the pace of recovery. Pictures of guardsmen handing out relief supplies and of understandably pleased locals receiving it. PBS (whodathunk), that paragon of truth spent two to three times the amount of time on the recovery and painted a much darker, more desperate situation. Then again CNN today spent time with both campaigns in Ohio. The first segment (Obama) showed some nice interaction with volunteers. Romney's showed a volunteer calling a number only to be hung up on. Guess the politicians aren't the only desperate ones in these final hours.
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Old 3rd Nov 2012, 02:41
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West Coast, welcome back!
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Old 3rd Nov 2012, 02:45
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Thanks! Wandering the desert is overrated.
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Old 3rd Nov 2012, 02:51
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West Coast, good to see you back. I saw the NBC part Nothing new, just as expected. Earl so right. Why not truck the fuel and give it out.

Cut the red tape, get the bureaucracy outbox the way but when the muppets start checking off the boxes and they don't add up we are back to red tape.

Government is the problem! God bless the man that said this.
Old 3rd Nov 2012, 03:15
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More on Joe

Good ol' Joe is making vacation plans. Maybe he is not as dumb as he looks.

Joe Biden Readies for Vacation | The Weekly Standard
Old 3rd Nov 2012, 03:30
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Long gas lines test patience of storm-struck residents - CNN.com
Spoke too soon.
Now they say even number license plates on one day odd number on the next.
What about the many that walk there with 5 gallon cans and no car.
More than enough can be trucked in to handle all.
More government control, useless ones in office now.
This fuel is just a few hours away.
Tanker trucks don't need electricity all gravity feed.
Wonder what the next excuse will be,all boils down to someone not making any money off this crisis.

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Old 3rd Nov 2012, 04:30
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I am thinking Obama is just lucky this storm did not hit a week earlier.
People having to deal with the "red tape" at FEMA or see how enept that government really is at resolving problems in short order would have really surfaced by now. We are just now starting to see the frustration, wait a week.
Now all Obama does is make a show and the poop does not hit the fan until after ther election.

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Old 3rd Nov 2012, 08:31
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From an observation point...

those who were citing Obama's brilliance in the handling of the hurricane (like he spread his arms and brought to bear his power in calming the winds, when in fact he just stated that people should listen to the authorities advice), yet were vocally critical of bush's handling of Katrina after the winds passed, seem to have gone rather quiet..

The first 72 hours after a natural disaster are the "polite" hours. Residents operate under the illusion that Big Government will soon save them with emergency supplies: food, water, fuel, clothing and more. So they follow the rules and "play nice."

After about the third day, all those social niceties start to erode. People are hungry and angry. There's a feeling of desperation and even abandonment. What seemed to be a polite society two days earlier suddenly becomes more sinister. The survival needs of individuals begin to outweigh social boundaries, and what emerges is desperation... even panic.

"Dwindling gasoline supplies are causing frayed nerves as the region endures its third full day with massive power outages." reports Fox News. "Frustration with gas supplies topped the list of issues causing tensions to boil over in New Jersey, New York and Connecticut, the states hardest hit by power outages in the wake of superstorm Sandy. Residents jockeyed for fuel at the few stations still pumping, searched store shelves in vain for batteries, struggled with sporadic cell phone service and found themselves unable to buy necessities at supermarkets."

State troopers have now been deployed to gas stations in an effort to head off near-riots as citizens lose patience and tempers flare.

On Twitter, fist fights are being reported over fuel shortages. Police have had to draw guns on some people, reports Brietbart.com.

That article includes posts from Twitter users:

You know things are bad when you ask the gas station attendent "when do you think you're going to get more gas?" and he just laughs at you. - Prede (@predederva) November 1, 2012

Just awful! RT @metrogypsy: Someone just pulled a knife at Greenpoint #gas station as line stretches with hours long wait #gettingrealFAST - Camila Xavier (@camilaxavier) November 1, 2012

Watching the breakdown of society at a gas station on Long Island. #sandysucks - Christina (@wooly_says) November 1, 2012

Another report from ABC News reveals the desperation and panic now forming among residents in Staten Island.

"We're going to die! We're going to freeze! We got 90-year-old people!" Donna Solli told visiting officials. "You don't understand. You gotta get your trucks down here on the corner now. It's been three days!"

The situation is so bad that even the Red Cross is being blamed for not showing up with supplies:

"This is America, not a third world nation. We need food, we need clothing," Staten Island Borough President Jim Molinaro said today. “My advice to the people of Staten Island is: Don't donate to the American Red Cross. Put their money elsewhere." (ABC News)

NBC News reports:

Staten Island officials had some choice words Thursday to describe what they said was a feeble disaster-relief response to people left dying, homeless and hungry in the New York City borough hit particularly hard by Sandy. Staten Island's top elected official blasted the American Red Cross response as "an absolute disgrace" and went so far as to urge its residents not to donate to the largely volunteer agency.

No gas for a week, no power for two

This situation, by the way, is only going to get FAR WORSE before it gets better. CNBC reports gas shortages will continue for at least a week, possibly longer. That's seven more days even while desperation has already taken hold on day three!

And power? Con Edison says it will be another 10 days before power is restored to the majority of customers currently in the dark.

As long as the power is out, gas stations can't pump gas, and that means continued gas shortages. That, in turn, means more desperation, starvation and even panic as residents can't use vehicles to acquire food and supplies. The American way of life, remember, is almost unimaginable without gasoline. Half the population seems physically incapable of walking anywhere these days, and almost nobody own bicycles anymore.

Things are going to get a lot worse over the next few days

What happens when millions of people packed into high-density cities can't get food, fuel or electricity?

People get desperate, of course. Desperation is about to set in. In the days ahead, you're going to see more fights and even weapons brought to bear in real-life survival scenarios. The federal government will predictably fail to reach people with the help they need, and people who neglected to prepare will find themselves in ever-more-desperate circumstances.

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