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Old 26th Aug 2012, 17:08
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con-pilot,

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The states that are represented by the Big 12 would make a pretty decent country.
You seem very, very sensitive about the great State of Oklahoma, are you still supportive of "Red States" proposal?
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 17:30
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You seem very, very sensitive about the great State of Oklahoma
Only when attacked by the ignorant. Never the less, not too many states had a extremely popular play and movie made about it.

Oh, and BOOMER SOONER.


are you still supportive of "Red States" proposal?

Only in a humorous, ain't never going to happen and just kidding around way. We are not serious, at least I'm certainly not. I am a citizen of the United States, first and foremost.

Now for this;

Think USA, December 7, 1941
You must be kidding, the US was not all that powerful in 1941. The Japanese did not attack Pearl Harbour because we were too strong, as at that time we were not. They attacked us because they feared that would become too strong and then interfere with their plans of conquest of the Pacific.

Course as we all know, that clever plan by the Japanese to force the US into a cease fire or capitulation, didn't work out all that well for them.

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Old 26th Aug 2012, 17:53
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Re-entry

When I think about Oklahoma, I always think about the 'steers and queers'
quote from 'An Officer and a Gentleman' movie.
Wow, you'd think a guy calling himself "Re-entry" with an "Orbital" location, would think "Astronaut" when thinking of Oklahoma.

Even with a population of under 4 million, ranking 28th in the U.S., Oklahoma has produced more astronauts than any other State.

Astronauts, droughts/dust bowls/climate refugees.....You seem to have this uncanny knack for picking subjects that Okies have a lot more experience with than you, or almost anyone else.

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Old 26th Aug 2012, 18:00
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One more fact about Oklahoma.

Okies spelled backward is Seiko. Uh huh, just think about that for a while.










This amazing fact was discovered one night in a bar when the other pilot I was with, read the logo/name of Seiko backward. We of course had a couple more rounds to celebrate our discovery.

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Old 26th Aug 2012, 18:03
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When things go wrong on re-entry.

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Old 26th Aug 2012, 18:30
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Okies spelled backward is Seiko. Uh huh, just think about that for a
while.

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Old 26th Aug 2012, 20:12
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You must be kidding, the US was not all that powerful in 1941
Perhaps, in retrospect, you know that, but at the time the Japanese thought the opposite.
They attacked us because they feared that would become too strong and then interfere with their plans of conquest of the Pacific.
They attacked us because of limitations, oil & time (only a two year supply of oil in bunkers).
The Japanese had already invaded Manchuria and knew this continued drive was in trouble without oil that the US had embargoed. Yamamoto was made "General" of the Navy and decided that the US strategic positions in the Pacific as well as the dominant US Pacific Fleet needed to be dealt with and so he devised the pre-emptive strike plan on Pearl Harbor to destroy as much of the dominant Pacific Fleet as possible. He envisioned what was left would be lured to Japanese controlled waters for a decisive final sea battle in the northern Philippine Sea. The first part of the plan worked but the second part was changed. First, only because of the Pearl Harbor success, did the Japanese embarked on the conquest of the southeastern Pacific. However, Doolittle's raid on Tokyo caused so much concern, Yamamoto decided to attack Midway Island and invade it, ending a military split in Japan as to what to do next. What Yamamoto didn't know was that the US had broken the Japanese naval code and were waiting near Midway at the right place and time. The battle of Midway resulted in the destruction of 4 Japanese carriers and was the beginning of the end of Japanese naval prominence in the Pacific after Pearl Harbor.
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 20:40
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Yamamoto was made "General" of the Navy and decided that the US strategic positions in the Pacific as well as the dominant US Pacific Fleet needed to be dealt with and so he devised the pre-emptive strike plan on Pearl Harbor to destroy as much of the dominant Pacific Fleet as possible.
Ah yes, the "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant" fellow.

Or if you prefer, "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

Neither proved, just attributed.

Credit: Wiki.
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 21:45
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Or if you prefer, "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

Neither proved, just attributed.
Yes, very true.
I did forget the Battle of The Coral Sea took place the month before Midway. There, the US lost a few ships including a carrier plus another was damaged, but the Japanese lost a small carrier, and one of their big carriers was damaged while another lost many of its pilots. The result was neither of the two were able to participate at Midway, advantage to the US. Also, as I recall, the damaged American carrier sailed back to Hawaii, was quickly repaired and participated at Midway much to the surprise of the Japanese who thought it was severely damaged.
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 22:33
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They attacked us because of limitations, oil & time (only a two year supply of oil in bunkers).
The Japanese had already invaded Manchuria and knew this continued drive was in trouble without oil that the US had embargoed.
Do you believe that Roosevelt was wrong to place an embargo on war material, including oil against Japan?

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Old 26th Aug 2012, 22:39
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I looked up "Soaring Eagle" in Navajo.

"To-lip-noc"

Spelled backwards, "Con-pilot"

Coincidence?

sayin'
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 22:53
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I looked up "Soaring Eagle" in Navajo.

"To-lip-noc"

Spelled backwards, "Con-pilot"

Coincidence?

I have a very sneaky hunch that you made that up.
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Old 26th Aug 2012, 22:56
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Soaring Eagle......errrrrr.....I have heard him called "Two Dogs"!


Left to their own devices, France and Germany have proved time and time again that they don't even know where their own borders begin or end.....
Now that is funny.....I don't care who you are! (To coin a phrase!)

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Old 26th Aug 2012, 23:07
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I have heard him called "Two Dogs"!
Now you don't have to repeat everything you hear.
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Old 27th Aug 2012, 02:40
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Do you believe that Roosevelt was wrong to place an embargo on war material, including oil against Japan?
No, that was the right thing to do. The mistake Roosevelt made (his naval leaders objected at the time) was to move the entire core of the Pacific Fleet to Hawaii from the mainland west coast. His reasoning for this was a "show of force" to the Japanese, a move closer to the Japanese homeland. Sadly, congregating the fleet in a relatively small harbor made it very vulnerable.
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Old 27th Aug 2012, 04:08
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Sounds like the Tampa meet is going to be fun.

What the left and George Soros plan for the RNC.

Anarchists plan to take down EMS at the RNC.

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Old 27th Aug 2012, 04:49
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The British could have shared what they knew about the Japanese plan from what they learned from breaking the Japanese Codes. That being said...Admiral Kelly Turner of our own Navy could have told Roosevelt as well.
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Old 27th Aug 2012, 05:02
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Sounds like the Tampa meet is going to be fun.
What will be even more fun, is what is going to happen to the attack clones of the DNC when they are out in open trying to protest in the middle of tropical storm conditions from hurricane Isaac as it passes.

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Old 27th Aug 2012, 05:13
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.....out in open trying to protest in the middle of tropical storm conditions from hurricane Isaac as it passes.
Perhaps they should be instructed on the proper application of slings and cords - secured on the other end to a sturdy post in order to weather out the violent wind conditions.

Say, something along these lines......



Tell them the rope is actually made from hemp and that it is good for the environment. They could also assist the Weather Channel folks as they would serve as a wind gauge as well.
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Old 27th Aug 2012, 05:22
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Seems things are delayed until Tuesday, though one would imagine that most delegates are already in place. Weather conditions Monday morning 0100 in Tampa are not too bad... it is Florida in August, after all. Winds ENE 14 kts gusts to 27, some heavy rain, humidity 95%. It should get stronger, but the storm's heading 285 at 12 knots moving it away from the peninsula, we'll see what course changes are in the offing.

Strippers look to GOP to 'make it rain' - CNN.com

Have to wonder if this little stat is valid, and if so, what are its implications, if any? Perhaps it speaks toward free enterprise. Couldn't say!

But if past conventions are any indicator, Republicans are likely to outspend Democrats heavily at topless bars and strip clubs, says Angelina Spencer. She heads the Association of Club Executives, an organization for the nation's 4,000 "gentleman's club" owners. The group talked to members in the host cities of past conventions.
"When we compared spending," Spencer notes, "the average showed Republicans spending $150 per person at an adult club, versus Democrats, who averaged $50 a person."
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