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Old 20th Feb 2011, 00:48
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Nobody explains the difference between teacher's unions and teachers better than Gov. Christie of NJ:

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Old 20th Feb 2011, 00:59
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With the likes of Christie, Rubio, Walker and the rest of these relatively new Conservatives, I gotta believe that there's a bunch of old time Democrats looking for rocks to hide under.


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Old 20th Feb 2011, 16:52
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There is no doubt that the Democrats are worried about Governor Christie and 2012.

They are already making personal attacks about his weight.
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Yeah, but Christie has beat them to it--he loves to joke about his heft. No news there. Sure glad, I revived this discussion.

The Dems in WI can't hold out forever, then they have to vote, IN THE MINORITY. Walker wanted this fight, campaigned on it, got elected on it. Besides, he's doing exactly what Pelosi and Reid have done. Walker knows if he wins this battle, a lot of states will follow, setting the stage for 2012.

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Old 20th Feb 2011, 21:01
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Sometimes. it is ok to be pedantic. I say be sceptical always of a politician promising "Change". Andrew Jackson said no such thing, and paid off the National debt. Reagan portrayed hope for a return to responsibility, which we saw, culminating in the death of the "Cold" War. Long Ago Politicians figured out we Americans were optimistic, which the bastards read as Gullible. It is why all Americans distrust Pols. There is at the Heart, a constant memory of the way America did things "before". We are eternally hopeful, because we feel, not because we know. Thinking gets the People into the trap of misplaced Trust, and vulnerability to con men such as Obama and his Crowd.

We have always been a "Gut" people, and I am no different. Obama suckered me in just as he did everyone who had that glimmer of a distant Past, which he milked like a Milkmaid with three hands. He is a phony bastard. I liked and voted for Perot. He was short, reasonably ugly, and had no "Flash". Christy is a gifted man in his way with words, and I am losing my scepticism. No one's perfect. I share completely his hatred of Unions, and the Damage they have done and the betrayal of their once important sense of Justice for Laborers who struggle.

My rule of thumb is to trust the public servant who hearkens back to our yesteryear, not the one who piggyback's on Lollipops and wishes. Obama is a craven user, he has the depth of the plastic chrome on my new prius.

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Old 20th Feb 2011, 21:11
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I no longer ignore meaningless Status reports. I push for specifics, and if they sound like crap, I keep going. You have a right to address the Captain personally, as you know. With your credentials, if they don't give you the straight stuff, let others know.

The time has passed for anyone to be sheepish about equipment.

Bon voyage mon ami.

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IIRC 52 years ago a young Fidel Castro was promising "change", the media were fawning all over him, and sure enough he delivered on his promise.
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Old 20th Feb 2011, 22:32
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Reported to be a "joystick" problem, my planes don't have one, attached to the plane, that is. Not sure if Air Chance will go or cancel.

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Old 21st Feb 2011, 00:09
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Pilots Will be Next

I would think the pilot's on this thread would support the Wisconsin employees. If Walker succeeds then the airlines will use this against their unions next. Look at yourselves: aging, loosing talent on how to actually fly an aircraft beyond turning knobs, working very few hours a month, and relying on seniority to protect you and your pension. Sounds like a place to cut costs with no reduction in passenger safety.

The new rules will be that if an airline is in the red, they will use Walker and the Tea Bagger's to justify screwing you.

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Old 21st Feb 2011, 00:20
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Stick with the plot, and that is public sector employee unions, corrupt democratic state politicians, and exploding state budgets. Unlike the fed, states can't pretend to fix the problem by printing more money. In come the tea-party inspired republican governors to shake up things. Are the fat-cat democrats and union bosses upset? Yes, and that's a good thing.
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In come the tea-party inspired republican governors to shake up things. Are the fat-cat democrats and union bosses upset? Yes, and that's a good thing.
No it's not... It's bloody marvelous...
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What's Better Than an "Internet Kill Switch"? -- Regular Security Updates

Honestly the government pushing the Internet Kill Switch scares the living out of me. I think it's rife for abuse and frankly could be used by the government for censorship or crackdown purposes.


Decentralizing the Internet So Big Brother Can't Find You

Do you think that this technology, operating under the guise of making it hard for the government to track people, will actually have back-doors in it to make it easier to track people?

This guy was a faculty member of Tel Aviv University for awhile. Israel has had a tendency to spy on the US more so than most of our Allies.


Newly Released Documents Detail FBI's Plan to Expand Federal Surveillance Laws

Isn't this the last thing we need? What are your opinions?


Debate Over Internet Backdoors Heats Up in Congress and in Court

I think this is absolutely ridiculous to require Google, Faceb00k, and Skype to be structured in such a way to make it easy for the government to tap them. I think the whole CALEA law is unreasonable in and of itself. I'm not saying I'm opposed to the government being able to employ surveillance, but the attitude behind CALEA is not about forcing communications services to comply with warrants; it's about giving the government the ability to listen in whenever they please.


Justice Department Assertion: FBI Can Get Phone Records Without Oversight

Am I the only one who sees something wrong with this?


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Old 22nd Feb 2011, 15:53
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So much for all that hope and change, not to mention his promise for a "more open government", huh.

Oh where, oh where are the liberals to be? Where are the outraged cries of the liberal Democrats screaming that the government is invading our personal lives and making it easier for the government to spy on its citizens?

Their silence speaks volumes.

If Bush had done just half of what Obama is doing, there'd be calls for impeachment.

Hope: We hope it will not get worse, but it is.

Change: Yup, we got change alright, only the wrong kind.
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Old 22nd Feb 2011, 21:04
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Another Democratic Blow to the Entrepreneurial Spirit.

CARSON CITY — Sen. Harry Reid on Tuesday called for “an adult conversation” about prostitution in Nevada, saying it is an impediment to economic development because it discourages businesses from moving here.
Harry Reid: 'The time has come for us to outlaw prostitution' - Tuesday, Feb. 22, 2011 | 9:45 a.m. - Las Vegas Sun
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Old 22nd Feb 2011, 21:12
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Look for, the Union Label.......

Who is advising the President?

Corrupt Influence: Top Union Boss Talks to White House Everyday - Unions - Fox Nation
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Old 23rd Feb 2011, 00:29
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con-pilot,

Change simply means to undergo transformation or transition. The change need not be good, it can be horrific. Looking at the terrorist attacks of September 11th, nobody can doubt that those attacks produced change. They changed 3,000 people from living to dead, three buildings from office buildings to rubble, various other buildings from reasonable condition to various states of damage. They resulted in a lot of bad legislation being passed which has resulted in an overly big government, lots of excessive spending, as well as the war in Iraq where thousands of American troops and over a million Iraqis died largely senseless deaths.

The change can be good as well, since the 1960's, black people have achieved a greater degree of equality than before. We have become less bigoted as a whole than we were back then. The change can be insignificant morally and physically as well.

Another word that is commonly believed to always be a good thing is "progress". The word is defined, basically as "to advance, as toward a goal". It doesn't actually specify what the goal is! The goal can be good, it can be morally neutral, or it can be bad, even horrific.

An example of good progress would be that black people and women have achieved a greater degree of equality than in the past; another example would be that many treatment and cures to diseases have been made over the years.

An example of horrific progress would be a genocide. Every person that dies in a genocide is progress for the people who are aiming for it. Being that I'm Jewish, and some of my family died in the holocaust; let's look at Adolf Hitler and the Nazi's for example. His goal was to rid the world of so-called "undesirables". These "undesirables" in his mind were Jewish people, Romanov/Gypsies, people of Slavic descent, homosexuals, and the mentally ill. Every person that were murdered in furtherance of his goal was progress as it advanced them closer to their goal. It doesn't change the fact that their goal was completely and utterly evil.

This is why it's important to understand the actual meaning of words. Most people think all progress and change is good, but it isn't always good.


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Another Democratic Blow to the Entrepreneurial Spirit.
It's kind of ironic that despite the desire to ban prostitution, all sex in one way or another is paid for. A boyfriend I used to date always said that, and I'd have to say that I agree with him on this one (though our relationship was definitively over when I found out he was having sex with prostitutes ). The difference really is the certainty of having sex.

While I will agree with you that this is definitely a case of corruption. I would like to remind everybody though that almost everybody has "blind-spots" when it comes to their political view; conservatives will always rail against the evils of the liberals, and the liberals will rail against the evils of the conservatives.

With that said, there are extremely serious cases of corruption on both the left-wing and right-wing. It is my opinion that politicians of all stripes should be assumed to be sociopathic con-artists and crooks until proven otherwise.


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Old 23rd Feb 2011, 15:09
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This is why it's important to understand the actual meaning of words. Most people think all progress and change is good, but it isn't always good.

Jane I would ask you not to presume to define the word change to me, I am well versed in its definition.

My point in regard to Obama's campaign slogan of Hope and Change was to point out it was nothing more than a typical politician's use of a catchy phrase in an attempt to be elected. Obama promised that if he was elected that there would be a change in the way the Government was run.

Well either he lied, most likely, or he himself is ignorant of the definition of the word change, as he has changed nothing in how the Government is run, at least from the Executive branch is concerned. He promised that all bills from Congress would be placed on the Internet for the citizens of the US to read. Didn't happen, so he lied just to gain more votes. He promised to reduce, if not eliminate Home Land Security, in fact, he has actually increased the scope and power of the Home Land Security. He promised to close Gitmo, it's still in business.

I could go on and on, but I'll not.

My point is that Obama used the catch phrase of Hope and Change as any typical politician would, just to be elected.

In other words, Obama is, like nearly all politician, a fraud who will say and/or do anything to be elected.

Therefore, as far as Obama is concerned, 'nothing new under the sun'.

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Old 23rd Feb 2011, 15:33
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Old 23rd Feb 2011, 15:42
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I'm sure his INTENTION was good in the first place.

But that's what they say about the road to Hell.
Paved with good intentions.
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