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Old 8th Aug 2014, 00:35
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Such a tragedy that Shrubbie could not run a couple more terms or all these problems would be solved by now..
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 00:41
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I notice you avoid the reality.
By noting who actually is the notional 'leader of the free world' at the present time and not six years ago?

Again, if we are allowed to fire up the way back machine to duck current responsibilities, shall I start with any of a number of British PMs who retreated from the world stage, leaving ugliness behind to be sorted out by the locals?

As to Mr. Hill, I do not take you seriously. Nothing personal, just unimportant.
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 00:45
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What was the condition and status of Iraq when Dubya handed the keys to Barry in 2008?
Mission Accomplished wasn't it Brick ?

What did Obama need to do ?
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 00:52
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Iraq was stablized. The Sunnis and Shia had cooperated with each other to rid the country of al Qeada in Iraq.

All Barry had to do was complete a Status of Forces agreement with Iraq. A very common diplomatic document when U.S. troops are stationed in sovereign nations. There is one for the UK, for example.

The Pentagon pleaded with Barry to get it done so that a residual force of 10,000-ish could be left in Iraq to continue providing some discipline and backbone to Iraq's very skittish and untested new Army.

There is a reason one leaves troops to garrison conquered foes. To ensure they don't revert back to the ways that you found necessary to fight in the first place. American troops didn't stay in Germany simply to keep Ivan at bay. Ensuring the fascist strain that reared its head twice in the 20th century had to be killed dead. Same for Japan. Make sure your will is imposed in their basic fabric until it sticks.

Barry deliberately chose not to. "Out of Iraq" was his re-election mantra and he, by God, stuck to it.

With predictable results.

Revel in Dubya's buffoonery all you want. It doesn't change the current circumstances, who is responsible for those circumstances now, and that you supported, vehemently, one Barack H. Obama as a new way for America.

Enjoy.
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 01:00
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Iraq was stablized. The Sunnis and Shia had cooperated with each other to rid the country of al Qeada in Iraq
Urrmm, Al Qaeda was not in the county when Bush invaded. Iraq has never been stabilised since the invasion. How much MORE money and lives did you want the US to throw at it Brick ?
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 01:03
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Not to mention our Brit allies.

You, among others, wanted Barry's election and re-election.

He is the U.S. President now.

He is lacking in leadership and the world is ignoring him.

The world didn't ignore Dubya. But the point is moot. Dubya is in Texas painting and writing a biography of his father. He is not in charge nor responsible for handling the current crises.

Liked or feared?

Barry is 0 for 2.
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 01:12
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Barry is 0 for 2.
Er, Barry is 0 for 4

You forgot "leading from behind" in Libya and the Syrian debacle, both of which I think he "lost" and
made him look an idiot in the eyes of the world.
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 01:19
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Dubya is in Texas painting and writing a biography
Nice work if you can get it. Blair is feathering his own nest too.

The world is grateful to both of them
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 02:05
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I just noticed this in my local news paper.

Obama announces airstrikes on ISIL militants in northern Iraq
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 02:12
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Too little and waaaay too late, Barry. A bit like applying a bandaid to a gushing arterial wound.

But I think you're totally aware of that.

As I watch Barak Obama, I think I know how the real, professional combat troops* among the British Army in Malaya in 1942 felt as they watched General Percival dither as he "led" into utter defeat.

*There were some - even the Japanese admitted that.
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 02:13
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Too little and waaaay too late, Barry. A bit like applying a bandaid to a gushing arterial wound.

But I think you're totally aware of that.

As I watch Barak Obama, I think I know how the real, professional combat troops* among the British Army in Malaya in 1942 felt as they watched General Percival dither as he "led" them into utter defeat.

*There were some - even the Japanese admitted that.
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 02:23
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Barry is on the stage, holding the microphone. You, the 200,000 screaming Germans, the majorities in the countries of Europe, among others, who wanted Obama now have to accept those consequences.
Nah,

doesn't bother me. Your country voted for him, twice. How galling. I'm fine with what I've got thanks.
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 02:28
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Your country voted for him, twice. How galling.
You see?! PPRuNe can bring about a meeting of minds.

I could not agree more with you and this statement.
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 02:38
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Re Barry's re-election: in North Carolina, how many people over the age of 106 were said to have voted? I seems to recall it was 15,000, and all in the 'right' counties.

The dead do indeed rise up and vote in North Carolina, and I'd be guessing there would not have been one solitary Republican among those centenarians.
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 03:28
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Damning Benghazi Report

The report from House Republican two year witch hunt on what happened in Benghazi shows no wrong doing by the currency admin. Makes most on this forum look like Fox News baited fools.

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Old 8th Aug 2014, 03:30
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The report from House Republican two year witch hunt on what happened in Benghazi
Shouldn't that read

The report from House Republican two year white wash on what happened in Benghazi ?


"found no intelligence failures around the deadly 2012 assault."

Which does not mean they couldn't have been helped.
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 04:20
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Iraq has never been stabilised since the invasion
Well thats absolute [email protected] Iraqi was going fantastically, far better than I thought possible. If the current idiot hadn't dropped the ball in the middle east, Iraqi would have developed into a fantastic democracy in half a century or so.
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 15:01
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Barry's announcement last night of him ordering military action in Iraq was the most uninspiring event I've ever witnessed.

He is the commander in chief ordering the nation's military forces into action.

His entire demeanor, his presentation, indeed his words were dull, distracted, and utterly disinterested.

He is supposed to be rallying the nation to the cause, garnering support the struggle at hand.

Instead, it looked like he was giving a book report that he hadn't prepared for.

We can discuss Barry Obama ordering military action in Iraq after he proclaimed victory and withdrew all U.S. forces another time.

By the way, didn't he win the Noble Peace Prize?

I guess not being George W. Bush is proving insufficient to actually fulfilling the duties of the Office of the President of the United States.

edited to add:

I stand corrected. It wasn't a book report he hadn't prepared for that was distracting him. It was the 12-day Martha's Vineyard vacation in an 8,100 square foot mansion that he left for today that was on his mind.

Remembering if he'd packed his golf clubs was on his mind...

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Old 8th Aug 2014, 18:56
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Remembering if he'd packed his golf clubs was on his mind...
Clubs not required if you don't have balls to begin with.
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 21:51
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On the bright side, the US can recover from the worst president ever if the voters come to their senses.

It's up to us to make the case. I'm making progress with my left-wing sister and her Communist daughter (my niece). Even they are beginning to see how this is not working.

Hope and change is what we need most, today. Ironic, ain't it?
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