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Old 8th Jul 2014, 20:17
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Bob,

Never.

I don't mind others from other countries saying what they like about us or anyone, everyone can have an opinion.

It's just the US does exactly the same to an extent, depending on which border as you noted.

And hell, if we want to be racist, why can't we !


Re General Kelly, I figure he was speaking before congress and not just to the media, even if he is in charge of Southern Command.
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Old 8th Jul 2014, 20:21
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A general spouting a view different than the Administration, not just this one, in public will be sacked, regardless of the appropriate venue.

Anyone remember then US Army Chief of Staff, later of VA scandal shame, Eric Shinseki?

When asked during Congressional hearings in the run-up to the most recent Iraq war how many troops he thought would be needed, he gave the honest, but not politically correct, answer of 200,000 or more. The Pentagon had put out the "faster, cheaper" mantra already. Shinseki gave his professional opinion.

Rumsfeld shortly thereafter announced Shinseki's "retirement." By which Shinseki was surprised because he didn't know he was retiring.

This guy saying something that the current Administration doesn't like will no doubt suffer the same fate.

But giving such professional opinion, when asked in the appropriate venue like a Congressional hearing or to the President, is their duty.

Too many of them don't/won't. Therefore they are derelict in their duty.

They should resign to protest the decision. Instead far too many have gone along with the stupidity.
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Old 8th Jul 2014, 20:25
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In other words was he derilic or insubordinate?
Neither, he was testifying in front of Congress. He was doing his duty to tell the truth as he knew it.

Now, will he be in trouble? Time will tell, but he would not be the first very high ranking officer to be fired for saying something an administration did not want to hear in public or in front of Congress.



Edited to say, Brick beat me to it, what he said.
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Old 8th Jul 2014, 20:29
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Shinseki was vindicated but didn't help him as he was already out of a job.

Rumsfeld was an Ahole for doing that.


Our last but one CDF, AVM Houston said something that completely contradicted the Gov't re Asylum Seekers - when he was deputy.
He still ended up with the top job, a credit to him and the Gov't.
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Old 8th Jul 2014, 23:52
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The end is nigh or how I stopped thinking and became a liberal...

I am moving.

I am packing up my stuff in order to do so.

In packing my firearms collection, I realized that there is nothing further at present that I want to collect.

I hope that by sweating out the poison during the move, I will overcome the illness and not have to turn in my man-card, lest I become a pajama boy brigade member.



Oh, and ammo is heavy. Lots of ammo is damned heavy...
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Old 8th Jul 2014, 23:57
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Okay, I'll bite, where you ya a movin to?

Oh, and need help? I'm available to oversee and direct others.
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Old 8th Jul 2014, 23:58
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Just across town. No big whoop, just not fun.

Maybe, to keep the thread on topic, I can convince Barry to pay for it?
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 00:03
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As you probably know, moving just across town is harder that moving across the country.

We moved so much when I was a kid, I became an expert at it.

As for Obama paying for it, go for it, I wouldn't mind my tax dollars going to you for the move.

Better than paying for 'Bama fones'.
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 00:08
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Oh, and ammo is heavy. Lots of ammo is damned heavy...
I can come over and "lighten" the load..

The only problem is that if Con-pilot comes, and I come, something tells me that Mrs. brickhistory will be the one doing the moving while we support the local restaurant/bar businesses.
 
Old 9th Jul 2014, 00:09
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How large will the indoor pool be and more importantly, how big is the bar?
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 00:38
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Brick,

I know you have an Zoomie Background and thus know naught of Logistics.....think Pallets, Fork Lifts, Grunt Labor that works cheap.

That last bit rules out Dush and Con as their drinking habits would break a Bank!
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 06:00
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Dushan has no drinking habit, but despite that, remains an individual to emulate. This I know.

Shinseki was a Clinton general, just as Petraeus was a Bush general. Each administration stamps its mark on the military mostly in the form of the officers it promotes to four stars.

Today, the ascendent generals toe the administration line, which is why we have gay parades, breathtakingly restrictive ROE's, VA scandals without comment from the active duty side, and sequestration without protest. They are Obama generals.
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 07:23
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Dushan has no drinking habit, but despite that, remains an individual to emulate. This I know.
Oh shucks. Get a room!!

I love a good gang love fest, with the little one jumping at the back saying 'me too and me".
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 09:08
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Boudreaux Bob said:
Dush and Con as their drinking habits would break a Bank
Then BenThere said:
Dushan has no drinking habit
Is there something we should know about Con? Just asking.
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 12:59
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I know you have an Zoomie Background and thus know naught of Logistics.....think Pallets, Fork Lifts, Grunt Labor that works cheap.
Air Force, yes. Academy, no.

One former job title was "Chief of Logistics."

So no 407Ls, no K-loaders, and the 'grunt' labor will be me.

However, Barry seems to be overstocking the shelves with cheap labor, albeit a tad young, so maybe I can hire from that supply...
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 14:09
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By "No Drinking Habit", I suppose he means no particular mode of attire whilst imbibing. Or must One dress as a Vicar to be properly attired for such activities?
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 14:35
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Well, BB, there is a cheap german plonk called "Blue Nun", so you never know whether that's Dushan's little secret tipple.
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 14:45
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Nothing wrong with liking Blue Nun. I tried it at one monthly tasting session when I used to work as a wine waiter. Personally I can't stand the stuff, and we didn't stock it, but a lot of people like it so we tried it along with our own cellar wines so we could recommend the most similar.
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 15:01
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I am hurt....deeply so! Calling my taste in Wine...."Cheap". I prefer to describe it as being "Good Value for Money". That I can get a lot of it for small amounts of Dosh is just an added benefit....really.
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 15:10
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Quantity has its own quality
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