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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 18:43
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The flights referred to in one of the earlier posts at Singapore in 2005 were a Hadj contract which was to have been based in Ujung Pandang but was moved after a series of bomb explosions including one next to the hotel we would have stayed in.
Not sure that is correct. The folks I saw looked more like tired Brits than Hadjees, and I would put money on the flight going off to Perth, if what is left of my memory does me well...

And Hadj in 2005 was in early January, and I wasn't in SIN until February... thinking about it, I seem to remember I saw the BY767 in November-ish 2005, not in early 2005 as per my earlier post. Mea culpa!

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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 18:52
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 19:42
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BY operated these flights for Austravel until the late 90's when it became clear they couldn't compete with BA, QF, etc. I'm sure AIH also operated down to Oz but it was before my time there so can't give details.
BY B762's were config'd 274 seats in 2-4-2 (never more than 1 seat from the aisle was the proud claim!) which was reduced from the normal 290 seats. A/C were G-BRIF, G-BRIG, G-BYAA, G-BYAB, G-POPB and I think G-BNYS but I can't remember which ones did the Oz flights. Later flights were operated by the B763 in 326 config (reduced from 344).
PER, MEL, SYD were main destinations when I was there with 1 per week (I think) to AUK.
Normal stopping point in the Middle East was AUH but the far east varied between SIN, BTH and I think either KUL or BKK for a while.
Towards the end they were down to 2 flights per week which meant the crews were away for up to 4 weeks.

Sense of deja vu as we were sitting in a bar last week talking about this very subject!

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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 20:16
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Anyone know when the last flight was and if thompsonfly are considering re opeing these routes? They have some decent long haul routes already. Great airline IMO.
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 20:54
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I stand corrected...2-4-2.
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 21:30
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With the amount of capacity offered by the likes of Emirates /Qatar etc to the Far East and Australia there is little money to be made flying charters to that part of the world from the UK. I can't see there being any chance of Thomson resuming flights in the foreseeable future.
Bangkok was operated for Airtours one winter but I don't believe that either BKK or KUL was ever used on the Oz flights.
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 00:15
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PER, MEL, SYD were main destinations when I was there with 1 per week (I think) to AUK.
I remember them coming to BNE as well, although I don't know how many times they did it. IIRC It was around Christmas time and they were always pretty full.
It was before the LCC thing really kicked off in OZ/SEA and they were much cheaper than everyone else.
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 15:05
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Don't like the Thomsonfly livery. Preferred the old livery.
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 16:15
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Way back when pennies were 240 to the (and when Victoria was on the throne) there was a Honolulu penny which was so-named because Britannia was depicted with the staff of the trident 'on her Lulu'.
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Old 25th Nov 2010, 08:43
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I remember them coming to BNE as well, although I don't know how many times they did it. IIRC It was around Christmas time and they were always pretty full.
It was before the LCC thing really kicked off in OZ/SEA and they were much cheaper than everyone else.

forgive me but LCC thing?
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Old 25th Nov 2010, 10:43
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Old 25th Nov 2010, 11:52
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Old 25th Nov 2010, 12:30
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Something like that.
Britannia were offering very cheap rates between Oz and the UK when the only other options were full price, expensive tickets from national carriers or flying someone like Lao Airlines and packing your own parachute. At the time, there wasn't a lot of competition on the Kangaroo routes. Cheap international fares anywhere were still an anomaly, although Compass had set the precedent with domestic fares.
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Old 13th Oct 2013, 23:33
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The registration letters for one of them were G-BOPB.
We reckoned it stood for Bugger Off Pommie Bastards.

Dunno if that was intentional.

Funny where they end up, still going strong:-


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Old 14th Oct 2013, 05:56
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The Australia flights originally departed from Luton and the first stop changed from places such as Sharjah and Karachi before settling on Abu Dhabi.

There was a non-stop Abu Dhabi Perth but most flights went via Singapore before that stop was changed to Bataam
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Old 14th Oct 2013, 07:19
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I doubt charter flights UK to Australia would start up again. There is just too much competition on the kangaroo route offering one stop flights. Usually someone has a special offer going to fill seats in their off season which means a year round sale.

Off the top of my head I can think of at least twelve airlines on the route doing one stop with a couple more starting in the near future. Go to two stops and/or use multiple airlines and the number increases even more.

With multiple crews overnighting down route and having the airframe away from base for weeks on end things get complicated and expensive.

Even QANTAS couldn't compete with Emirates advantage of a Dubai base.
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Old 14th Oct 2013, 08:49
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I flew on a Brittania flight to the UK in Nov '91, Gold Coast - Cairns - Singapore - Sharjah - Luton but we ended up in Gatwick due to fog at Luton. Suited me better at the time tho, I was familiar with Gatwick to London transport options
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NA & NB also caused some problems when operated in passenger mode.. The freight door, its frame, and the freight floor all added to the basic weight. They had the basic wing, and -9 engines, which limited the max take off weight. If it was hot, no wind, high pressure altitude you would be severely limited on payload/fuel.
Flew down to Reus in 1983 on NB, I remember the CCs did not have fitted overhead bins just a coach style net shelf meaning you couldn't store anything on them which made the space around your feet very cramped. I also remembered it shook like buggery when the skipper slammed on the reverse thrust.

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Old 14th Oct 2013, 12:13
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Thread drift I know, but I love in post #38, someone is saying, if BY or others still did these routes to Oz, fares would be cheaper.

Have you got any idea how much a Y class airfare has fallen in relative terms in the last 20 years on the mainline long haul airlines?

Do the sums, it will shock you. And if you compare the product you get now, even in Y, compared to 20 years ago, it's a bargain.
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Old 14th Oct 2013, 13:07
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Yes I agree with the above. A very different market nowadays and the Middle East now rule the kangaroo routes. Shall have to see if the likes of thomson bother with oz now aircraft like the 787 are becoming more common.



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