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Old 22nd Nov 2010, 15:05
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The Ex used to wheel the grub up and down the aisle for Britannia, she did a couple of those trips 99/2000. If my memory serves me right it Was Gatwick - Abu dhabi - phuket - Oz. Around 28days I think.
Twas a long time ago though.

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Old 22nd Nov 2010, 17:52
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Just out of interest re the crew's trip length, how would the 3 or 4 weeks be allocated and was this company policy or CAA ? Oh, and any sordid details as well please



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Old 22nd Nov 2010, 18:17
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They were certainly running to Oz in early 2005 - I was working at Changi at the time, and remember seeing very sore passengers getting off to stretch their legs.... always seemed a bit odd seeing the BY code on the SIN boards, amongst all the SQ, QF, CX and TR!

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Old 22nd Nov 2010, 19:00
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Britannia's two 707s were G-AYEX and G-AYSI.

They operated to a number of long-haul destinations including Georgetown, Guyana, Singapore and various Australian cities from both Luton and Gatwick. I certainly remember (un)loading them in the early seventies, arriving at Luton from the above. I've a feeling they also operated ABCs (Advanced-booking charters) to the USA, but AFAIK that was from Gatwick.
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Old 22nd Nov 2010, 19:12
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Caledonian were operating cheap charter flights between the UK and Oz in the early seventies.

Remember flying from/through Melbourne's brand new airport at Tullamarine late 1971 enroute Port Moresby/London. Also remember you had to "join" some kind of travellers club, as membership was a pre-requisite for bookings on the charter flight.
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Old 22nd Nov 2010, 19:24
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remember seeing very sore passengers getting off to stretch their legs.... always seemed a bit odd seeing the BY code on the SIN boards, amongst all the SQ, QF, CX and TR!
Am not surprised. If I remember right, we had around 270 seats on that baby 76! I know what you mean about the flight numbers. I couldn't help having a little bit of pride when seeing our flight number on the boards and our jet, dressed in it's finest livery, sitting on the tarmac on the other side of the world. Daft really...
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Old 22nd Nov 2010, 19:37
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It's strange that I was listening to someone talking about these flights last week
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Old 22nd Nov 2010, 21:53
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The Britannia livery; highly individual. Not flown with them since they changed it. Maybe Storminnorm might know:how long did it take to have the image placed on the tailfin?
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Old 22nd Nov 2010, 22:08
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Same as the length of time it takes to apply any other decal.
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 07:55
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Off thread Didn't they also have a Bristol Freighter?
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 08:12
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We handled Britannia in Melbourne. What a bunch of whingers used to get off of that aircraft!

In fairness, a 762 in a 3-4-3 config (280 odd pax) would test anyone. I once tried sitting in the window seat, all 6'5" of me, and every inch of the left side of my body touched the bulkhead!

I'll always remember how good the crew were with the whingers though. One Lady was paying out on how bad the flight was & the Purser (CM?) just looked at her & said; "Well love, if you want to pay ₤300, you can fly on BA!"
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 08:39
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Off thread Didn't they also have a Bristol Freighter?
I've got a book at home somewhere called 'Flying to the Sun', a history of BY up to the late '80s. When BY was incorporated from Euravia in 1961? they had Connies and a few York freighters. One contract I think was moving engines around for El Al. I can not remember seeing a Bristol in the fleet list but I'll have a look when I'm back home.
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 09:24
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Didn't they also have a Bristol Freighter?
I read that as Bristol Fighter . . .
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 10:21
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Sorry Cap'n Notarius, NO idea how long it took for the tail decals
to be applied. That was carried out by the Secret Society group
that lived in the BIG shed at LTN. We were never Privy to such info.

I think the seating plan was for 273 pax, initially.

The Bristol Freighter that was parked up at Luton was nothing to do with Brit's.
(As far as I know.)
Initially Brits had a 737, (G-AXNA ?), with a freight door for positioning
BIG engines, if needed.
My first job in Civil Aviation was with Euravia/Britannia in 1965.
Left to go to Coventry when ACE Freighters set up a Maintenance
hangar up there for the old Connies. REAL Aircraft they were.

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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 10:37
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BY 737 QC freighters

They had 2, G-AXNA & NB. For the shipment of engines. Of course, whenever an engine change was required they were never easily available! (and then you had 2 aircraft out of passenger operations as they were normally operated as passenger aircraft).

When it was quiet during the winter, they would be placed into a pure freight role and they would generate a lot of interest (737 freighters not being that common then) especially with horses etc. Then, come the sprng they would dump all the freight work and put them back into passenger role. They did wonder why eventually no body took them seriously on the freight side!!
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 10:41
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Too much competition from dedicated Freight Operators?
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 10:57
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NA & NB also caused some problems when operated in passenger mode.. The freight door, its frame, and the freight floor all added to the basic weight. They had the basic wing, and -9 engines, which limited the max take off weight. If it was hot, no wind, high pressure altitude you would be severely limited on payload/fuel.
Did Luton - Ibiza in one on one occasion, and had to tech stop Gerona for fuel.
On another occasion, in Naples, the wind was such that take off into wind on the south west runway was a no-go due to obstacle limits, and take off to the north west with a tail wind ( the usual choice ) was out as the wind was too strong. We had even worked on going to Rome Ciampino, with Rome Fiumicino as alt., taking the passengers only, and having the bags sent by road, and it still wouldn't work. Ended up waiting for the wind to drop.

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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 15:07
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I think its fantastic that an airline such as Britannia operated to such far out places.

I think more airlines should do it these days, as many would welcome cheaper prices and aircraft such as the 767ERs are more than capable.
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 17:20
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Just a thought. A PM to the mod responsible for the company forum might get info from people not normally visiting here.
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 18:07
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The 762 had a 2-4-2 seating configuration. For short haul they had 274 seats for longhaul 258. The route was initially Luton Bahrein Singapore Canberra/ Coolangatta as Britannia were not given rights to fly to the main Oz cities initially. This was soon changed to a full range destinations including Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney, Cairns, Brisbane and for one winter Alice Springs. There was also a series to Auckland.
The flights referred to in one of the earlier posts at Singapore in 2005 were a Hadj contract which was to have been based in Ujung Pandang but was moved after a series of bomb explosions including one next to the hotel we would have stayed in.
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