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Everything has it's price - shooting the Exmoor Stag

Old 30th Oct 2010, 14:52
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Bruce Wayne wrote:
...or did that message pass you by ?
I have no qualms concerning animals that are hunted and killed "fairly". But "any old stag", having been raised and grown up in an artificial environment "without" any natural predators still deserves a modicum of respect. And even the right to a painfull or even violent death at the hands of their most natuaral enemies...?!

Or do you really believe that your mum / dad / grand-parent somehow left our Earth completely voluntarily in their hospital beds? Life is not anymore some "longue fleuve tranquille". And perhaps instead of "the quiet passing away" in some hospital bed, they wished for something else...?!

tailstrikecharles, sorry, but did not post those images. Dream on...
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 18:48
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When I first heard of Britain's finest wild animal
Are you having a laugh? It was just some old deer.
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 18:51
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Are you having a laugh? It was just some old deer.
Oh my, at first I thought you had posted; 'just some old dear'.


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Old 30th Oct 2010, 21:10
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From an earlier post:

So was this hunt legal? If so, get the law changed if you don't like it or go pound sand.

If the hunt was illegal, catch the culprit and pursue the matter in court.
Sometimes the simplest questions are the ones left unanswered.
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 23:22
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Couldn't it have been saved in a zoo?

There is a picture of "Hogzilla" on line, an enormous feral pig, which was blown away by some rural doof and then buried. I wish somebody had tried to tranquilize this monster and put it up at the zoo. It would have been really something to see. Same with the elk. The best part is, that after it does kick the oxygen habit, you can STILL shoot it and stuff it, but nobody would care then.

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Old 30th Oct 2010, 23:36
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Post Zoos don't take unsolicited donations

(Neither do sperm banks, curiously enough)

Logistically, it would likely be an impossible undertaking. It would take more than one tranq-dart to knock him out, and the range on those things is less than a gun, so you would have to get closer... I wouldn't want to be the one to try that exercise!
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 23:54
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Originally Posted by tailstrikecharles View Post
I wouldn't want to be the one to try that exercise!
Safety first! A bullet inside a rifle mounted with a good scope.
.....Absolutely.Must.Put.Down.This.Old."Dear"...

About changing law, it start with some sort of protestations no !?
I believe the French are very good at it.

Not sure about UK, it's still a Monarchy there
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Old 31st Oct 2010, 11:59
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So is the consensus:
  1. We should all be Vegans - no animal products at all.
  2. We should all be vegetarians - but I'm a bit sus about farmed eggs and the slaughter of male calves in the dairy industry.
  3. No one should ever hunt or fish, but farmed animals killed in abattoirs is OK.
  4. OK, People can hunt or fish (although I think they are sick) - and they should definitely never be allowed to be happy about achieving a "record bag".
  5. Hey, it's the way of living in the world as an omnivore, get over it - stop living in your artificial city dream world and try and understand the reality of life and death.


Are these just good hunters:








... or BAD hunters?

Is their pleasure at being good at what they do evil, because it is involved with life & death?

Does the bear shock you more than the fish?
Does the boy hunter shock you more than the adults?

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Old 31st Oct 2010, 12:47
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Old 31st Oct 2010, 12:58
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Someone on the telly this AM mentioned that 50,000 animals
are killed in the UK EACH Day!!
That's impressive.
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Old 31st Oct 2010, 13:24
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Someone on the telly this AM mentioned that 50,000 animals
are killed in the UK EACH Day!!
That's impressive.
ahh but it's OK if you industrialize the process, but one person, shooting one deer is just not on it seems !
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Old 31st Oct 2010, 14:47
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Yes it is (the industrialisation) Unless you manage to control the number of human back to what it was in the middle age.
No it is not (shooting down one of the best specimen of deer)

Bruce Wayne are you a vegetarian or what ?
Because you seems to...

On this particular subject.

Me too mind you.
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Old 1st Nov 2010, 09:06
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They spend so much time at it they forget to eat and become thin and exhausted - and an easy target. So shooting them during the mating season is usually frowned upon by game hunters
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They don't forget to eat, they are to busy shagging or looking for one.
12years old.Past his use by date.
9 ft tall? When he sheds his antlers how tall is he then? 5ft.Not that big.
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Old 3rd Nov 2010, 13:03
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any gnashing of teeth or public outcry of animal welfare...??

Secret footage shows how millions of unwanted British chicks are killed every year..



This is the conveyor belt reality of the millions of chicks that go into Britain's egg farms every year.

Thousands of the fluffy yellow chicks will travel the conveyor belts of the hatcheries dotted across the country each day.


Half of these chicks, the males, are sorted and immediately discarded - either thrown alive into mascerating machines, which kill instantly, or gassed.

no ?

oh it must be ok for the urban tree huggers, because it's not one man with a rifle, shooting one animal.
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Old 3rd Nov 2010, 14:35
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Is the conveyor belt to help them take off ?
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Old 3rd Nov 2010, 15:01
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We flew a load of day old chicks down to Mali once.
(I think the locals ate them on sandwiches.)
On the return to CDG a lone chick appeared on the Flt Deck.
One of the loaders had it when we got back.(Not on a sandwich!!)

Nice to see one of them making a bid for freedom off the
conveyer belt.
The image is a bit too blurred to do an Identikit picture of it.
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Old 3rd Nov 2010, 15:05
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Is the conveyor belt to help them take off ?
The conveyor belt is to prevent them from taking off.

Don't you know anything about avioconveyor belt theory?
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Old 3rd Nov 2010, 15:06
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oh it must be ok for the urban tree huggers, because it's not one man with a rifle, shooting one animal.

No, not OK. That is what has to happen in the sense of feeding the 6-7 billion human-beings alive today.
And there is no room available anymore for GWB excusers who disguise their so-called solutions, especially when it is the lives of US servicemen and ordinary civilians in the conflict zones in question.
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Old 3rd Nov 2010, 19:31
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This time next year a lone stag will probably be more than a fair match for what's left of the British Armed Forces.
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Old 3rd Nov 2010, 23:06
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In the words of Jose Ortega y Gasset: "To the sportsman the death of the game is not what interests him; that is not his purpose. What interests him is everything that he had to do to achieve that death -- that is, the hunt.....I do not hunt in order to kill, I kill in order to have hunted.
You do NOT need to kill after a hunt...you could use a camera instead.

Jus' sayin'.
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