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Old 12th Oct 2010, 19:53
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When my half complained about the lack of time for gardening, I told her we should buy a dish-washer to save time.
She agreed.

Now, I don't have to hand-wash the dishes anymore so I've got time to deal with the gardening.
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Old 12th Oct 2010, 21:30
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I developed a desire to have sex with my dishwasher...so my wife sent her home.





Pity that. She was a Bosch.
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Old 12th Oct 2010, 21:47
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I've lived with 'em for years, worked with 'em for years.

One day I'll understand how they think.

One day
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Old 12th Oct 2010, 21:56
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I've lived with 'em for years, worked with 'em for years.

One day I'll understand how they think.

One day
Nope, sadly that is never going to happen, but if it ever did imagine the money to be made telling the rest of mankind
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Yes humour is why we clicked here, and humour is why the OP posted. Perhaps getting a life should be first order of business Juud.

And this bit here:
Personally, I find V2's thread starter premise to be of breath taking stupidity.
wouldn't that be against ROE and all that?
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Old 12th Oct 2010, 22:21
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I've lived with 'em for years, worked with 'em for years.

One day I'll understand how they think.

One day
Given that all women are like all men in that they are individual personalities with unique characteristics, you'd be better off trying to determine how any particluar thinks and not think that one woman would think in the same way as another.

Cheers

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Old 12th Oct 2010, 22:28
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Given that all women are like all men in that they are individual personalities with unique characteristics, you'd be better off trying to determine how any particluar thinks and not think that one woman would think in the same way as another.

Cheers

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Whirls.....are you a girl?
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Old 12th Oct 2010, 22:38
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One day I'll understand how they think.
No need to understand them : push the right buttons, as written in the manual, and here we go !
That's the best way I know to keep them working well !
BOSCH dishwashers, I mean... I've heard it also works with other brands.



V2-OMG,
I tend to be more of a listener than a talker?
You're not married, are you ?
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Old 12th Oct 2010, 22:57
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Originally Posted by Whirlygig View Post
Given that all women are like all men in that they are individual personalities with unique characteristics, you'd be better off trying to determine how any particluar thinks and not think that one woman would think in the same way as another.

Cheers

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Whirls,

Only a woman could think that
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Old 12th Oct 2010, 23:16
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It is a delight to see that Jet Blast is as lighthearted as ever.

A man in love is incomplete until he is married - then he's finished.
Zsa Zsa Gabor

Love is a fire. But whether it is going to warm your heart or burn down your house,
you can never tell.
Joan Crawford

Please note that Zsa Zsa and Joan are experienced in matters of the heart.

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Old 13th Oct 2010, 00:31
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Likewise BrAtco, likewise. Press the right buttons and you are as satisfied as us women!!!!
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Old 13th Oct 2010, 00:36
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Read the book "Why men want sex" & "women need love" (I think) bit like " Men from Mars, Women from Venus" however, bits of it will relate to everyone of us I am sure!!!!!!
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Old 13th Oct 2010, 04:44
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Wow! What a reponse! The replies ran the gamut of the human experience: sadness, profundity, arrogance, wisdom, and yes....even humour.

I appreciated each and every response. I'm sorry that I cannot respond to them all.

But there are a few that I need to respond to.

Do you ever read anything scientific about how women and men treat each other V2? Do you?
Juud, I'm painfully aware of the statistics. But this was not about scientific data....and in this context, I can't help but be reminded of one of Einstein's quotes which is as follows:
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction.

I trust the sophistication of the PPRuNe readership -that they would understand that I made certain assumptions and have the courage to reply. (They did not let me down.) The biggest assumption being this: the subtext of my queury dealt exclusively with women in westernized societies who have made the biggest advances in the areas you expressed concern. (Yes, there is room for improvement, but I was thinking of where we have come from vs. where we have to go).

I wanted to embolden the male response to those advances because I really believe many men are confused as to what exactly their role in society is. I am not blaming women for that. But I am disgusted with the attitudes of my former lunch mates (and the partners of those who expressed their angst of late) who expect their spouse/partner to be malable to their needs - then complain, ridicule, and ostracize them when they have an identity crisis. I really think that ridicule was/is rooted in sheer panic. OMG! My Tom, Dick or Harry has the gaul to actually question himself? Who next? Me????!!!!!!

Anyway Juud, I did appreciate your response because it certainly promoted that courage of subsequent reply.
Regards,
V2.

Which is probably why you and your chums felt the need to get together and run your spouses down, V2. It was easier to have a group bitch about them and their shortcomings than to face up to the fact that half the blame lay with yourselves and your own poor selections.
Syllogisms, it isn't so much about what you call "poor selections." All my former "she-wolf lunch mates" as I now call them thought they were making a fairly good "selection." My concern is the appalling maintenance of that "selection."

Treating people like crap cuts both ways, period!
Namib, The dishing of that crap is often non-gender specific.

Are you perchance single, personable and (at a minimum) easy on the male eye V2-OMG? Sounds like the water was being tested as to whether you would be interested in being 'the bit on the side'. Does 'my wife doesn't understand me' ring any bells?
Curious Pax, I honestly feel these men have no alterior motives. I think they trust me because after leaving my "she-wolf lunch mates" I vowed to never discuss my partner in a negative light with anyone again. I am no longer with that particular partner, but they like what I say about him and I mean it: He was a good person. I am a good person. But there came a time when we were no longer good for one another.

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Old 13th Oct 2010, 05:09
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Funny, I thought we got rid of Agony Aunt
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Old 13th Oct 2010, 05:09
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One reason people relate so well to cats and dogs.... is that they have similar and comparable social skills.

When running in packs, gangs, clubs, circles, herds, schools, groups, classes, companies, regiments, etc., the simplest and most reliable path to social success -- or at least survival -- is to act fairly much like and as everybody else in the cohort. This, which essentially amounts to closely mimicking the "good" and "bad" habits and behaviors of others in one's pack, becomes the basis for social competency and "personal style", the whole bouillabaisse of which, taken in the aggregate, one intuitively understands as Normal.

Something inherent in the nature of male-female relationships is the palpable differences between the two types of animal. The same je ne sais quoi features and qualities that make such relationships interesting also make them inherently complex, worrisome, vexatious, absurd and terrifying. The rituals and formalities of courtship, however brief or prolonged that may be, provide a temporary and imperfect buffer that protects each party somewhat from the terrible realization which will eventually dawn -- that you're not at all like me. True to the rules of professional merchandising, differences between the parties are construed by media and other matchmakers as features and benefits, rather than fundamental, destructive, deal-breaking flaws. Vive la Difference, eh?

A student of literature might notice that, at this point, we have the main ingredients of classical tragedy lined up and number one for the runway of life. Basically incompatible, emotionally immature, confused and differentially programmed individuals, surging with hormones and absurdly dithered expectations, are now about to be locked into a small, airless box together for at least the time it takes to propagate the species.

Once that formality is addressed, in spades, time becomes more generally available for the parties to begin to assimilate and ponder the enormity of the mess they have each gotten into. Discussion and social interactions help to clarify and gradually enormify the chasm of understandings about things small and large which comes into display from moment to moment during the intercourse, of the non-conjugal sort, that comprises 98.5 percent of the very long time spent passing enroute downriver after the rush to get out of Eden.

Of all the possible endings to this journey, the most common seems to be that of the sensible cat-dog focus - centered on full tummy, soft bedding, predictable regime (including periodic visits to the Garden and back) and the security of some mutual protection from the oddness and dangers of the outside world - which incrementally prevails over more complicated life-style alternatives. The oddness of it all fades into background as a new sort of Normal takes root, and the package by default becomes one's new native pack, sometimes augmented by a series of new packettes and packetinos.

For the others, those who mostly are incurably thick, wayward, or given to thinking far too much about annoying details, the airless box at some juncture seems quite suffocating, so they break out with greater or lesser force, style, and grace, then pause and ponder the dusty road and vast horizon as fresh alternatives. Predictably time runs on, memory fades, the moon beckons, a little howl comes welling up from the depths of the diaphragm, and then it all begins again - somewhat older, edges nicked and corners more worn, yet hardly the wiser, nor wanting to be.
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Old 13th Oct 2010, 05:54
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arcniz, gee whizzakers....I love how you write and what an analogy!
My "she-wolf lunch mate" pack was obviously right on.

Re:..."Of all the possible endings to this journey, the most common seems to be that of the sensible cat-dog focus - centered on full tummy, soft bedding, predictable regime (including periodic visits to the Garden and back) and the security of some mutual protection from the oddness and dangers of the outside world..."

That bone of complacency is somewhat depressing but agonizingly true; in recessionary times, the divorce rate drops.
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Old 13th Oct 2010, 10:44
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How to keep a woman happy with ony 2 1/2 inches :

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Women can think? Is that on their own or with help from men?
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Old 13th Oct 2010, 11:08
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How to make a man happy with 1/2 inch :


Capetonian, glad to see you're back alive.


d&b, you're right ! We're all dishwashers.
The thing is that there's no manual, except the way we were educated and the expriences we got through.
"Please" and "Thank you", "I'm glad being with you" are efficient buttons, beside the "obvious" ones. They work even better when you pretend you mean it.
They have to be pushed both ways.
My experience talks...
Waow ! Am I being serious ?

Hopefuly not too much ! One needs humour to survive a marriage !
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Old 13th Oct 2010, 12:10
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In terms of control.......

If you, as a man, look at your female partner and wonder if you might have a chance to make love some time soon...

She already know the answer.

I'm once again struck by the breadth of unhappiness revealed here. I too am unhappy, but trying very hard to make things better for both of us. It leaves me feeling sad that in the 21st C we seem to be still slaves to biology, tradition and learnt responses.

I wish for a new society were the differences between the sexes can be acknowledged, accepted by both and dealt with differently than today.

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