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Old 14th Sep 2010, 09:27
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A winter of discontent Mk II?

Labour are right behind you, Harriet Harman tells strike-hungry union chiefs

Acting Labour leader Harriet Harman backed a union war on cuts at the TUC today.

Harriet Harman backed a union campaign against spending cuts yesterday by saying Labour would support coordinated strike action. The acting opposition leader spoke out as union chiefs declared war on the ‘demolition Government’ and warned of ‘a movement of such scale that you have never seen before’.

At the opening of the Trades Union Congress annual conference in Manchester, they said a bitter fight against the cuts had begun – and would not end until they won. Union members voted yesterday to co-ordinate their actions for maximum impact, with just one delegate – pilot Jim McAuslan – in a room of 700 voting against the plan.

It means Britain is facing a bitter series of strikes, protests, demonstrations and civil disobedience which could start as early as next month and last for years.

In a dramatic lurch to the left by Labour, which condemned widespread strike action while in government, Miss Harman endorsed plans for a nationwide campaign of civil disobedience and workplace walk-outs saying Labour would support union attempts to ‘campaign, demonstrate and protest’.

Speaking at the TUC, she said: ‘We will not be silenced by the right wing charaterising protest as undemocratic. Trade unionists have the democratic right to protest. We will not be deterred by suggestions that this is illegitimate. It is perfectly within the law. We will not be cowed by accusations that this is irresponsible and putting services at risk – the very opposite is true. We will fight back.’....
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Old 14th Sep 2010, 14:31
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Whereas when Labour were in power they said public sector strikes were irresponsible and put services at risk. She's also forgotten about the thousands of public sector jobs scrapped by Labour and the plans to scrap another 25% over the next 3 years had they retained power
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Old 14th Sep 2010, 19:11
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A union member not a million miles from where I'm sitting says "I very much doubt that anyone where I work will go on strike".
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Old 14th Sep 2010, 19:32
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Whereas when Labour were in power they said public sector strikes were irresponsible and put services at risk. She's also forgotten about the thousands of public sector jobs scrapped by Labour and the plans to scrap another 25% over the next 3 years had they retained power
Given that around 25% of the UK labour force is Public Sector, this would, at least, be a start!
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Old 14th Sep 2010, 20:58
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...public sector strikes...
How will they be able to tell?
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Old 15th Sep 2010, 09:59
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Mrs E spent eight hours on sunday doing lesson prep and marking.And this with the threat of redundancy.I don't understand it.In her position I would be doing the absolute minimum to get my salary paid.
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Old 15th Sep 2010, 10:27
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I'm surprised they didn't expect her to train her replacement as well Mr E.
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Old 15th Sep 2010, 12:01
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Mrs C is (was) a 'top of grade' supply secondary teacher, registered in Maths, Chemistry and Special Needs. She was so sick of and demoralised by the job, she quit at 49 with no other equivalently renumerated job to go to. I can't say I notice any change in household economics other than I have a much happier wife, being creative and developing all that other 5-9 hobby/work stuff.

In my experience, Mrs E will be well shot of teaching. Like so many things, despite our 'progressive' society, its not what it used to be......
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Old 15th Sep 2010, 12:11
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When the workers strike, do their leaders also do so? Or does Bob Crow still pick up his £95k a year? Why would anybody put their livlihood at risk for the likes of him?
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Old 15th Sep 2010, 13:27
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Nick, while I take your point about the odious Crow, he's not the one who really creates the strike. While he advises the National Executive Committee, it's the NEC who decide collectively to put a strike ballot to the members, and it is they who decide whether to withdraw their labour.

I was a member of my union's NEC for 15 years, and on all bar a couple of occasions, I voted against a ballot for strike action as it's generally pointless.
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Old 15th Sep 2010, 13:35
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Well I actually agree with what you all say.I said just chuck it in now,walk away,she has done 33 years.But the point that I was making is that she isn't in any way militant,she is a union member but really in name only and she is sitting there saying that Bob Crow has a point.If people like her are saying such things it does make you wonder what the mood of the country is.
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Old 16th Sep 2010, 12:51
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While I agree that your wife's case appears appalling on the face of it I do not agree that the country as a whole has a problem with the cuts. I have been surprised at the number of people I talk to who do not welcome the cuts but see them as a necessary evil to try and correct the shambolic finances that the last government saddled us with. Some of these are friends that I would have expected to be right behind industrial action but who have no interest in putting their jobs at risk at this time. I might be wrong but I think that the unions are going to discover that the appetite for disruption is not what they think it is.
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Old 16th Sep 2010, 13:41
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Anyone like to bet that the union bosses are taking a pay cut in these lean times?


Serwotka (PCS union) pledged that when he was elected he'd accept an average member's wage- last year the greedy bd took over 100k in salary and pension.
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Old 16th Sep 2010, 13:49
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The Banks caused all this furore, but they're STILL paying
out Mega bonuses.
They're just giving more ammunition to Bob Crow and his bunch.
You can hardly blame Crow for throwing a tantrum.
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Old 16th Sep 2010, 14:01
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You can hardly blame Crow for throwing a tantrum.
Crow would throw a tantrum if the price of bacon came down, he don't need an excuse to start ranting
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Old 16th Sep 2010, 14:03
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Very true I must say.
Just a "Gob" on legs.
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Old 16th Sep 2010, 14:09
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His appearance on HIGNFY confirmed, were it needed, his status as a humourless puffed up twonk.
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Old 17th Sep 2010, 11:59
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Yes it did I agree.An interesting piece on R4 yesterday regarding pay rates.The thrust of the argument was this:Frank Lampard gets paid a lot of money.There are arguably very few people who can do his job as well as he does.Chairmen of large companies however are not in that position.I run a small business and the same principles apply to running a big one,I think that if necessary I could run Sainsbury's or EasyJet it's basic management skills. So the CEO of Sainsbury's could be paid £100k p.a,. with no ill effect.

I think that this is why bankers are so reviled.A lot of us suspect that given the opportunity we could do their job.
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Old 17th Sep 2010, 16:56
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I think that this is why bankers are so reviled.A lot of us suspect that given the opportunity we could do their job.
Buggah off, mate.

My standards may be low but they are NOT that low!
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Old 21st Sep 2010, 07:18
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And this lot have some of the reins of power?


Motorists and holidaymakers face 'green tax' rise of £800 - Telegraph

"Mr Huhne will argue that drivers will accept a rise if persuaded that the money will be used for tax breaks elsewhere, including a possible cut in employers' national insurance payments." Yeah right
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