UK politics - Hamsterwheel
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Originally Posted by sitigeltfel
I see the chancellor is earmarking an extra £2bn for mental health services. Will that be enough to treat all the carpet chewing Remainers, especially the fruitbat with his silly costume, EU flag and banners who does his pathetic little dance behind TV reporters outside Parliament ? His deranged antics sum up the entire Remain movement !
Hast thou been watching repeats of Nige gracing our screens, or, art thou referring to one J.R-M here ?.......tis difficult to tell as both fulfil the criteria you have kindly provided above
Anyway, many Mail readers probably won't be in work today after celebrating Phil's generosity to support their lifestyles......and, better still, the scroungers get next to nothing !......that's just what these people deserve after all....they should have inherited wealth, worked harder at school, and arse licked their way to the top thereafter !
Thankfully, Middle Hingerlahnd have been spared the potential social ignominy of little Tamsin and Tarquin being forced to wear last years designer cast offs and Yummy Mummy can still arrive at the school gates in this years top of the range model of the marque of choice. And, of course, not being reduced a mere one cruise a year !.
Unfortunately, there's a little twist in the Tory largesse as the article points out......which is a neat bit of Tory duplicity now isn't it chaps. Not to worry though, you can all plan a little celebratory splurge this weekend at "La Truffilino Porcine " probably making sure you pass the local food bank en -route to mock the poor people, hwah ! hwah !.......and, when reality possibly kicks in, pause to think about a very uncertain economic future for the UK and the population
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...n-tax-giveaway
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-46026729
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...budget-cartoon
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...nefit-the-rich
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According to your theory, the electorate are not bothered about immigration since they still elected the last two governments.
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator
Irrelevant. A Government is elected in its whole manifesto with the small section of floating voters deciding the outcome. As far as they've are concerned they may not be voting for any one item, e.g. Immigration, but for, in their opinion, the least bad option.
The statement I was replying to was that:
Imigration policy for nationals outside the EU is a matter for the UK government. If the electorate don’t like the policy they have the opportunity to vote in a new government every 5 years.
The fact remains that for whatever reason, successive governments have failed to tackle immigration from outside the EU, and Brexit will do nothing whatever to correct that problem.
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234
On the contrary, it is entirely relevant when the reduction of immigration is claimed to be a benefit of Brexit
Really? Successive governments have made it a declared policy to reduce immigration, and they have failed to do so. According to your theory, the electorate are not bothered about immigration since they still elected the last two governments.
All Brexit can do is apply the same failed controls to the smaller number of EU nationals, that have not reduced the larger number of non-EU nationals.
Really? Successive governments have made it a declared policy to reduce immigration, and they have failed to do so. According to your theory, the electorate are not bothered about immigration since they still elected the last two governments.
All Brexit can do is apply the same failed controls to the smaller number of EU nationals, that have not reduced the larger number of non-EU nationals.
Except that, while successive Conservative/Coalition Governments have woefully failed to reduce non-EU immigration by any significant amount, it remains Government Policy to do so. Governments of all hues often fail to achieve their goals.
You may believe that the UK will never be able to control non-EU immigration; I don’t agree.
But, I’m sure that you will agree that if we remain in the EU the UK will never be able to control immigration from the soon to be expanded EU.
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Originally Posted by Dutystude
But, I’m sure that you will agree that if we remain in the EU the UK will never be able to control immigration from the soon to be expanded EU.
If you are referring to those little Balkan countries who want to join, it seems they have a long way to go to meet EU standards.
Turkey of course has written itself out of consideration.
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234
Just out of interest, where is this expansion that is happening soon?
If you are referring to those little Balkan countries who want to join, it seems they have a long way to go to meet EU standards.
Turkey of course has written itself out of consideration.
If you are referring to those little Balkan countries who want to join, it seems they have a long way to go to meet EU standards.
Turkey of course has written itself out of consideration.
I suppose that Ukraine, for purely political, certainly not economic reasons might be fast tracked in but the same would apply if they (stupidly) were.
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It's extremely unlikely that Ukraine would be invited in when their government doesn't even control parts of its own territory.
Edit: Apologies for being dragged into EU discussions in the UK thread.
Edit: Apologies for being dragged into EU discussions in the UK thread.
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A list of MPs who support illegal immigration..
https://www.globaljustice.org.uk/mps...e-signatories#
All the usual suspects.
https://www.globaljustice.org.uk/mps...e-signatories#
All the usual suspects.
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Middle England denizens have long been noted for their hypocrisy when it comes to condemnation of benefit claimants and indeed anybody who does conform to their societal and career expectations, thus the comments by a Tory Minister may well touch a few nerves both on here and in the real world. Be interesting though to see how much effect this proposal has on those happily indulging themselves in this manner whilst professing to live pure, honest and virtuous lives.....
Not unrelated in fact to the comments made by JB's favourite Mayor and their, ahem, "recreational use only habits "
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-and-law-firms-
Not unrelated in fact to the comments made by JB's favourite Mayor and their, ahem, "recreational use only habits "
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-and-law-firms-
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips
Middle England denizens have long been noted for their hypocrisy when it comes to condemnation of benefit claimants and indeed anybody who does conform to their societal and career expectations, thus the comments by a Tory Minister may well touch a few nerves both on here and in the real world. Be interesting though to see how much effect this proposal has on those happily indulging themselves in this manner whilst professing to live pure, honest and virtuous lives.....
Not unrelated in fact to the comments made by JB's favourite Mayor and their, ahem, "recreational use only habits "
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-and-law-firms-
Not unrelated in fact to the comments made by JB's favourite Mayor and their, ahem, "recreational use only habits "
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-and-law-firms-
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234
Broken link?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-and-law-firms-
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Thank you. Strangely enough I had realised that.
The purpose of a URL is to lead directly to the page in question.
Going via the home page only works as long as the article still appears there, in which case the URL is redundant anyway.
The purpose of a URL is to lead directly to the page in question.
Going via the home page only works as long as the article still appears there, in which case the URL is redundant anyway.
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Just found a way to get to this thread, after several days of trying, without success.
The problem may be associated with the "last page" not actually pointing to the proper last page, together with what looks to be loads of empty page references extending way beyond the real last page. I played around manually editing the URL for this thread many times, and eventually landed on this page using this edited URL: UK politics - Hamsterwheel (which points to page number 542).
The "last page" URL seems to be: UK politics - Hamsterwheel which points to a page (number 560) which doesn't exist, and presumably something then picks up this incorrect page address and tried to redirect it to the true one, with that process falling over for quite a lot of users for some unknown reason.
I would support the view that if this thread can't be fixed so that it works for everyone, the simplest solution would seem to be to lock it and let the Mk2 thread take over, as at least that does seem to work reliably.
The problem may be associated with the "last page" not actually pointing to the proper last page, together with what looks to be loads of empty page references extending way beyond the real last page. I played around manually editing the URL for this thread many times, and eventually landed on this page using this edited URL: UK politics - Hamsterwheel (which points to page number 542).
The "last page" URL seems to be: UK politics - Hamsterwheel which points to a page (number 560) which doesn't exist, and presumably something then picks up this incorrect page address and tried to redirect it to the true one, with that process falling over for quite a lot of users for some unknown reason.
I would support the view that if this thread can't be fixed so that it works for everyone, the simplest solution would seem to be to lock it and let the Mk2 thread take over, as at least that does seem to work reliably.
