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Old 30th Aug 2018, 18:52
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I see there is a serious hoo-hah developing over Alex as almond crowd funding his defence. The case seems to have an awful lot in common with that of the much loved bachelor boy, albeit the allegations are less serious. I do wonder if those who protested at the treatment of Cliffy will be equally aghast at the treatment of Salmond. I tend to think not.
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Old 30th Aug 2018, 18:54
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Simon Wiesenthal Center Calls on Jeremy Corbyn to Resign

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Old 30th Aug 2018, 19:01
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Those campaigning against Corbyn should be careful what they wish for. A sensible centre-left leader of the party would be twenty plus points ahead in the polls by now. Do the Tories/Brexiteers really want that? I would have thought the sensible thing to do would be to lie low and let him get on with it. An emergence of an SDP Mk.2 now would be a real nightmare scenario.
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Old 30th Aug 2018, 19:04
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https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-l...jeremy-corbyn/

UK Labour veteran Frank Field quits over anti-Semitism crisis

LONDON — Labour MP Frank Field resigned Thursday because of “nastiness” in the party and its handling of the escalating anti-Semitism crisis.

Field, the MP for Birkenhead, issued a statement on Thursday saying he was resigning the Labour whip and would sit as an independent MP.

In the statement, Field said: “The party must recognise the culture of nastiness, bullying, and intimidation that it has allowed to grow unchecked and expel local members whose public conduct is simply disgraceful. The party needs to send out a clear signal against nastiness, bullying, and intimidation at every level by taking effective action.” He added that the “current excuses for the party’s toleration of anti-Semitism must cease and the party needs to regain its position as being the leading force against racism in this country.”

His resignation led to fears within Labour that more MPs could follow suit. John Woodcock and Jared O’Mara have also resigned the Labour whip over the handling of separate misconduct claims against them......


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Old 30th Aug 2018, 19:16
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You would think the Labour Party wouldn’t get the message."..

https://capx.co/corbyns-lies-about-n...bours-history/

Corbyn’s lies about Nato are a betrayal of Labour’s history
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Old 30th Aug 2018, 21:25
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Just to add a little bit more on the Panasonic move to Netherlands.

I wonder why they chose Netherlands....

Is the Netherlands a tax haven? - No More Tax

Seems to me that it isn't just about the UK leaving the EU - as many multinationals operating in Europe won't tell you....
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Old 31st Aug 2018, 06:01
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
But unfortunately it's the taxes from the overheated London that prop up the poorer parts of the country
Only via EU regional aid. When that stops London can keep all its own money, so won't notice the difference.
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Old 31st Aug 2018, 06:11
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As we know, when the British travel to warmer climes they have a well deserved reputation for loosing their inhibitions so it was a revelation to see Treeza really is a chip off the old blue rinse block here Success breeds success and, clearly buoyed by her opening moves in S.A, she wasted no time with a reprise in Kenya....true, it wasn't quite in the same league as the end scene in "Dirty Dancing " and it's possible she won't be break dancing down Whitehall when she gets home. Still, that's what holidays are for, time to forget the reality of life, not that she's ever actually been aware in the first place, and even better if somebody else is paying.

All we need now to complete the British tourist abroad image is for her to stagger down the steps at Brize, or Heathrow, legless and holding a bit of paper in her hand before telling the UK electorate " I have , in my hand, a trade deal signed by , hic, erm, somebody I can't remember "...

Here's Sam Cooke with some helpful moves for the future......


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Old 31st Aug 2018, 06:43
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
I see there is a serious hoo-hah developing over Alex as almond crowd funding his defence. The case seems to have an awful lot in common with that of the much loved bachelor boy, albeit the allegations are less serious. I do wonder if those who protested at the treatment of Cliffy will be equally aghast at the treatment of Salmond. I tend to think not.
I agree. I don't know how wealthy Alex Salmond is, but I do know that taking court action isn't cheap, and to get the best legal costs. At the moment he's facing allegations from un-named people, as usual, and people are, as usual, making the assumption he is guilty as charged (and in point of fact he hasn't been charged - don't believe he's even been spoken by the police).

If he needs cash to defend himself then why shouldn't he ask for money; those who want to support him can cough up, those sanctimonious keyboard warriors who believe the money would be better in the hands of "victims charities" might want to dip into their pockets and support them. It's (at the moment) a free country and people are perfectly free to spend their money as they feel.

Personally, whilst I would never contribute to Salmond's crowd funding efforts; since I never support any crowd funding efforts, he has my sympathy as yet another man in the public eye having their career damaged through what may well turn out to be totally groundless allegations.
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Old 31st Aug 2018, 08:42
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EU preparing to fudge a deal with TM to help her get a vote through the HoC. The aim being to keep her in power through to the post-Brexit transition period where they can then get what they want.

TM will take the deal because she also wants to get the vote through, kill off any possibility of a second referendum - and Boris - and stay in power.

EU27 prepare Irish 'fudge' to secure 11th hour Brexit deal | City A.M.

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Old 31st Aug 2018, 08:46
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Old 31st Aug 2018, 09:16
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There us only one way to sort this out. In the words of that great statesman Harry Hill...Fight..fight..fight!
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Old 31st Aug 2018, 13:32
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
This is not just about the jobs.
Panasonic are moving their head office to Amsterdam, so they will be running their tax and regulatory affairs from there.
The remaining UK staff will just be the box pushers. Panasonic will arrange their corporate tax accordingly, paying it in Amsterdam where their registered office is operating..

And it's not just Panasonic
I didn't say it was. I was actually pointing out that the original poster who quoted the article was banging on about 200 highly paid jobs in that way that blames the entire woes of the world on the referendum result whilst inaccurately quoting some piece of "journalism" from the BBC.

In much the same way as this article https://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-a8432276.html links reduced car sales with the Brexit situation whilst failing to mention that a) the drop is almost entirely linked to the chancellors policy of higher VED plus further promised taxes and b) we are still in the EU so it seems strange that whilst we still enjoy these "beneficial" trading arrangements sales are dropping anyway.
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Old 31st Aug 2018, 14:22
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If pana have a decent tax advisor most of their biz will be tax-mixed in Holland already, with a legal base in Dublin. The "HQ" issue has been marginal for many years for big corporates.
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Old 2nd Sep 2018, 18:05
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I honestly don't believe my own eyes and ears, I have just heard The Brown person position himself for leadership of the Labour Party (on the pretence of some garbage about tackling anti-semitism), not only is he a complete dikwad that sold the country but apparently a fantasist of Bliaresque proportions

I simply cannot comprehend how people of his stature actually have a job let alone think they can tell people 'how it is'...

yours, Gobsmacked of Gloucester
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Old 3rd Sep 2018, 00:06
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I simply cannot comprehend how people of his stature actually have a job
Look at the pool they're fishing in, he's actually one of the better ones ...
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Old 3rd Sep 2018, 05:07
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I honestly don't believe my own eyes and ears, I have just heard The Brown person position himself for leadership of the Labour Party (on the pretence of some garbage about tackling anti-semitism), not only is he a complete dikwad that sold the country but apparently a fantasist of Bliaresque proportions

I simply cannot comprehend how people of his stature actually have a job let alone think they can tell people 'how it is'...

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Dear Gobsmacked of Gloucester.

Have you considered availing yourself of both an eye and hearing test at all ?........I only ask with your health and welfare in mind because it appears you have been viewing and listening to a speech that is entirely different in content to that of your perception. On the other hand, here on JB Gordon Brown or any mention of him, is always a sure fire winner when it comes to eliciting the chaps antagonism.

Back to the future and this neat depiction of Captain Treeza standing at the helm ........you were saying something about fantasy and leadership ?
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ership-cartoon



The lyrics seem perfectly apt.....

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Old 3rd Sep 2018, 10:39
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KnC....

I'm not complaining, really I'm not, but when you provide links to the Guardian, more often than not they're just writers' comments and opinions - not actual reports about current events and developments. And of course, we all know that most journalists are one-eyed and only serve up the rubbish that they think will provide the Confirmation Bias their regular readers need.

Heaven forbid if someone else were to do the same, just continually posting similar opinion pieces from the Daily HateMail or Express when we're discussing politics.
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Old 3rd Sep 2018, 16:05
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Suzanne Moore makes this point in The Guardian

But one thing is clear. Salmond, innocent or guilty, is signalling his power in a way I find deeply worrying. The message being sent out to women is that if you make accusations you will be up against enormous power and wealth
Whether the former First Minister behaved inappropriately or not his traditional bombastic methods of addressing any subject may backfire here in the event that there is some substance to the accusation.

KnC, it was fifty years ago today as the song has it.
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Old 4th Sep 2018, 05:42
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