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Old 7th Aug 2018, 16:42
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Of course having duty free at airports will be reliant on there being any flights at all
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 17:00
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
What has luck got to do with it? The saving on food and drink and avoidance of shops more than cover the costs.
Just a couple of points, sorry about this ......first, it's not compulsory to shop at an airport. You can, in fact, simply walk past and ignore these outlets.

Second, this "free " food and drink that slithers down your gullet. You may have not noticed,but, in order to gain entry to lounges, you do, generally, have to pay a bit more for the ticket and, if you are truly desperate and / or daft, you can in fact consume both for less than the additional cost to the flight. Personally, I've never seen any reason to indulge in either prior to flying because you won't be airborne for long on short or medium haul ( and may even get s snack ) and if you're sitting on your backside for "xx" hours long haul then you get fed anyway so why eat and drink just for the sake of it.
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 18:13
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
it's not compulsory to shop at an airport
And sometimes they make it quite difficult:

"Please can I buy this Mars bar?"

"Boarding pass please."

Puts down Mars bar and walks off empty handed. WTF??

On being asked, the retailers say they have to record the boarding pass when selling a Mars bar because the airport requires them to do so. The airport denies this.
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 18:19
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Originally Posted by scr1 View Post
Of course having duty free at airports will be reliant on there being any flights at all
And what is going to stop them?
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 19:45
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
And sometimes they make it quite difficult:

"Please can I buy this Mars bar?"

"Boarding pass please."

Puts down Mars bar and walks off empty handed. WTF??

On being asked, the retailers say they have to record the boarding pass when selling a Mars bar because the airport requires them to do so. The airport denies this.
Good for you Gertie - they save the VAT, you get inconvenienced - er no, they lose the sale.
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 19:46
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Originally Posted by Trossie View Post
And what is going to stop them?
Project Fear II
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 20:25
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Originally Posted by ZeBedie View Post
Good for you Gertie - they save the VAT, you get inconvenienced - er no, they lose the sale.
Managing without a Mars bar that I don't need anyway is a lot less "getting inconvenienced" than walking to the other end of the airport, picking up my boarding pass, and walking all the way back again.
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 21:34
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Originally Posted by ZeBedie View Post
Project Fear II
Ahh. So nothing rational then!
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 00:02
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Re Duty Free: Just last night, my brother and I were each sold a packet of fags during a ferry crossing from Dublin to Holyhead. The packets were odd looking as they were in the old fashioned colours (not the current uniform black etc). Both of the packets had the "You're all going to die!" message in both English and Gaelic. Yet in one corner they were clearly marked "For Duty Free Sale Only". When we realised they were a couple of quid cheaper (approx 20%) than in both Ireland and UK, we asked for more. The nice Lithaunian gentleman at the till said he was only able to sell us 1 pack each.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 16:19
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I just tell the person behind the till a polite "no thanks" when asked for my boarding card and they invariably shrug and swipe their card to authorise the transaction.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 16:59
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
Managing without a Mars bar that I don't need anyway is a lot less "getting inconvenienced" than walking to the other end of the airport, picking up my boarding pass, and walking all the way back again.
As our check in is invariably before the hotel served breakfast we enjoy the quiet comfort and freely available food and drink rather than the discomfort, noise and bustle in the main concourse. Barbados is also a very pleasant diversion. Money well spent and you don't have to guard your belongings all the time.
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Old 10th Aug 2018, 14:29
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Silence from the doom-and-gloom mongers.

However: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45141127
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Old 10th Aug 2018, 15:08
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Do you mean from those who would point out
The ONS also said that the economy grew by 0.1% in June, down from a more robust 0.3% in the previous month.
in the same article?
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Old 10th Aug 2018, 16:08
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Originally Posted by Trossie View Post
Silence from the doom-and-gloom mongers.

However: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45141127
What is your point exactly?

"manufacturing continued to fall back from its high point at the end of last year and underlying growth remained modest by historical standards."
"The UK's trade deficit noticeably worsened, as exports of cars and planes declined sharply while imports rose."
"Abstracting from these quarterly movements, the underlying trend in real GDP is one of slowing growth."
"The UK economy grew by 0.6% in the first half of 2018, compared with the second half of 2017 - continuing the declining trend seen since the second half of 2014."
"The rate of growth looks subdued in comparison to some global peers, with the US economy growing at twice the speed."
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Old 11th Aug 2018, 09:41
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
What is your point exactly?

"manufacturing continued to fall back from its high point at the end of last year and underlying growth remained modest by historical standards."
"The UK's trade deficit noticeably worsened, as exports of cars and planes declined sharply while imports rose."
"Abstracting from these quarterly movements, the underlying trend in real GDP is one of slowing growth."
"The UK economy grew by 0.6% in the first half of 2018, compared with the second half of 2017 - continuing the declining trend seen since the second half of 2014."
"The rate of growth looks subdued in comparison to some global peers, with the US economy growing at twice the speed."
Ahh... one of the glass-half-empty people, must be a Remoaner! Trying to pick out only 'bad' bits.

My point is that the economy grew when all the doom-and-gloom merchants have been saying it would do the opposite.

With my glass that is half full, I shall say 'Cheers!' to that!!
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Old 11th Aug 2018, 10:12
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Speaking of what I know, the level of car sales has dropped off a cliff. This is due in part to the fact that many on Personal Car Plans are finding themselves in far too deep financially and attempting to extricate themselves, which means moving down, not up. Add to that the uncertainty of Brexit and it's close to a perfect storm. Whatever your take on Brexit it's unarguable that it's bringing fear of the unknown and that will inhibit big item purchases until it is resolved.
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Old 11th Aug 2018, 10:29
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I wonder how many 'unsold' cars (and vans) there are 'lying around'?
Recent bus journeys have taken me past second-hand vehicle dealers, and their lots are overflowing with closely-parked vehicles awaiting new owners.
And then there are the new vehicle compounds which are also 'solid'.
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Old 11th Aug 2018, 10:33
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Originally Posted by Trossie View Post
Ahh... one of the glass-half-empty people, must be a Remoaner! Trying to pick out only 'bad' bits.

My point is that the economy grew when all the doom-and-gloom merchants have been saying it would do the opposite.

With my glass that is half full, I shall say 'Cheers!' to that!!
About this glass of yours, the one that is contributing to your dehydration...a condition which invariably produces hallucinations .............

You may note the word recession appears in the article ....you may also note, that, whilst the permafrost remains in Yorkshire, the rest of the UK got rather warm...which was nice and hopefully these ambient conditions will return soon...and warm weather does induce the public to go beyond their television sets and playstations into a wider world.....

https://www.theguardian.com/business...-uk-gdp-growth
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Old 11th Aug 2018, 13:10
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
Speaking of what I know, the level of car sales has dropped off a cliff.
That's the one (and only) positive from #brexit. As the old cars fall apart and stop being used those people who can't afford new ones will be getting the health benefits from walking and cycling, and poor people's cars won't be cluttering up the roads so rich people will have reduced congestion to cope with.

OK so temporarily things might get worse, as older cars get driven for longer before being scrapped, so worse pollution, and worse congestion as they break down more often in awkward places. But hey, short term pain for long term gain, that's what #brexit is all about, no?
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Old 11th Aug 2018, 13:26
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
Speaking of what I know, the level of car sales has dropped off a cliff. This is due in part to the fact that many on Personal Car Plans are finding themselves in far too deep financially and attempting to extricate themselves, which means moving down, not up. Add to that the uncertainty of Brexit and it's close to a perfect storm. Whatever your take on Brexit it's unarguable that it's bringing fear of the unknown and that will inhibit big item purchases until it is resolved.
The PCP industry was going to fall off a cliff sometime, it was only a matter of time. Arguably the sooner it happens the better given the amount of debt involved.
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